Tyler, Texas Man Has Found Fossils From Noah's Flood

[LittleNipper]

Sea creatures can be buried in a subsea landslide, like in the Burgess Shale, or they can drop to the bottom into an anoxic (low or zero oxygen) environment where the microorganisms that cause decay can't live.

It would seem that the decay of the Titanic has proven this to be unrealistic. There was once a popular novel entitled "Raise the Titanic". The premise of the story was that since the ship was deep in the Atlantic, that corrosion would not take place (cold & zero oxygen). Well, aside from the fact that the ship split in half, and the rear half collapsed from impact with the bottom. The ship was in an advanced state of decay. though oddly the tanned leather suitcases of delicate clothing were often found in surprisingly good condition.

Unfortunately, fish don't get tanned when they die, nor stuck in tanned leather suitcases. They would have to get buried immediately in much silt and mud.   

[LittleNipper]

Because it's a damn good state! It has just about every kind of landscape you could imagine, vibrant urban centers, beautiful rural areas, an extremely diverse population, and amazing barbecue. Also a lot of ultra-conservative bigots and churches, but if you got rid of those, it would easily be the best state in the union.

Sorry, but if you got rid of all the ultra-conservative "bigots" and churches, you'd end up with New Jersey.

[stromboli]

Sorry, but if you got rid of all the ultra-conservative "bigots" and churches, you'd end up with New Jersey.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

It would seem that the decay of the Titanic has proven this to be unrealistic. There was once a popular novel entitled "Raise the Titanic". The premise of the story was that since the ship was deep in the Atlantic, that corrosion would not take place (cold & zero oxygen). Well, aside from the fact that the ship split in half, and the rear half collapsed from impact with the bottom. The ship was in an advanced state of decay. though oddly the tanned leather suitcases of delicate clothing were often found in surprisingly good condition.

Unfortunately, fish don't get tanned when they die, nor stuck in tanned leather suitcases. They would have to get buried immediately in much silt and mud.   

Anybody figured out that the hulk might not be in an anoxic environment? One of the factors is still water, not something you find in most places in the Atlantic.

[LittleNipper]

Proof of the Flood from Noah's time.
Scientific Evidence for a Worldwide Flood
The Age of the Earth: Part Four A 


Two Vastly Different Views:
Let's not kid ourselves.  What this is all about is whether or not the Old Testament book of Genesis (along with the rest of the Old Testament, and the New Testament) is an accurate account of what happened around 4600 years ago with regard to a worldwide flood and about 6000 years ago with regard to Creation itself.  Is the Bible accurate and true or is it just a book of allegorical stories?   

Was the great majority of the world's sedimentary strata laid down by a single Worldwide Deluge in a short amount of time, or is the evolutionary scenario of slow change, acting over eons of TIME and the associated Geological Time Chart (with its millions and millions of years) a more accurate account of Earth history and how we came to be?

This is also about God's future judgment of mankind and the return of Jesus to rule over the Earth -- that God and He created -- and to which He compared to the Days of Noah and the Flood.  See  Luke 17:20-27,  19:11-27;  John 5:22-23, 12:32, and  Rev. 22:12.

Let's Look at the Evidence:
  The following are 18 Evidences of either massive flooding and erosion, extremely rapid layering of strata, or direct evidence of a Worldwide Flood.  Such evidences are found in numerous places on virtually every Continent.   

Polystrate Fossils:
Upright Fossil Tree crossing multiple layers of rock strata One of the strongest pieces of evidence for a worldwide flood is the existence of what Rupke termed "polystrate fossils."  Such fossils are found all over the world: especially in and around coal seams.  They are often in the form of  fossil  trees that were buried upright and which often cross multiple  layers of strata such as sandstone, shale, limestone  and even   coal beds. 1,2,3,4     They range in size from small rootlets to trees over 80 feet long.  Sometimes they are oblique (or at an angle to) the surrounding strata, but more often they are perpendicular with (or standing 'upright' in) it.  For example, at Joggins, Nova Scotia, polystrate tree (and root) fossils are found at various intervals throughout roughly 2,500 feet of strata.  Many of the trees are from 10-20 feet long,  5,6 and at least  one was 40 feet long.  5,6,7   

Very few of these upright fossil trees have attached roots, and only about 1 in 50 8   have both roots and rootlets attached.  Such trees, and their missing roots are discussed in detail in an article on 'Fossil Forests'.   9     Likewise many, if not most, of the large, fragmented, and  broken-off  Stigmaria roots (of these trees) are also missing  their rootlets.   In fact, that's how the word "stigmaria" (roots) got its name: i.e. because of the scar marks left behind from the broken off (and now missing) rootlets. 9 

Many of these roots and rootlets are also buried individually.   9  Thus virtually proving that neither the trees themselves, nor their rootlets were buried in the place where they grew, or "in situ," but were uprooted and re-buried where they are now found.

Similar circumstances occur elsewhere in Nova Scotia and other Canadian provinces, as well as the United States, South America, Europe, China, Russia, and Australia.  Buried tree stumps are also found on Axel Heiberg 10,11  Island in Northern Canada and wherever coal seams are found.

And although there is much data on buried trees in the geological literature, much of it is from books that are over 100 years old.  One of the first articles on this subject was by Rupke, and in it he comments that:


“Personally, I am of the opinion that ... polystrate fossils  constitute a crucial phenomenon  both to the actuality and the mechanism of cataclysmic deposition.  Curiously  a paper on polystrate fossils appears to be a  'black swan’  in geological literature.  Antecedent to this synopsis a systematic discussion of  the relevant phenomena was never published.  However, geologists must have been informed about these fossils.  In view of this it seems unintelligible that uniformitarianism has kept its dominant position."   12  Emphasis Added

With regard to Rupke's observation, I suspect the reason why such is still the case has more to do with a pervasive bias against any and all evidence for a Creator to whom we may one day have to give account than to the ever-mounting evidence against the theory of evolution and the millions and millions of years that such a belief needs to make it seem true.

See also Organic levels of the Yellowstone Petrified Forest 13 and The Yellowstone Petrified Forests 14

The Fossils Themselves:
Fossils don't form on lake bottoms today,  nor are they found  forming on the bottom of the sea. 15  Instead, they normally only form when a plant or animal is buried soon after it dies.  16   Therefore, the fossils themselves are evidence of a catastrophe such as a  flood or volcanic eruption that took place in the past. Rapid Petrification of Wood

Clastic Dikes: 
Clastic Dike: Pre-hardened rock forced up through overlying strata According to  Austin, a clastic dike is:


"a cross cutting body of sedimentary material which has been intruded into a foreign rock mass."   17

"These dikes...(may) penetrate horizontal sedimentary strata (or) they may occur... in igneous and metamorphic rocks.  The process of  formation of a clastic dike is analogous to wet sand oozing up between ones toes, but on a much larger scale."    17 

Clastic dikes present a problem to the "mythions of years" mindset of evolution in  that  massive "older" sediments are found intruding up into overlying younger strata.  This must have occurred while the "older" sediments were still in a plastic state.  This is clearly brought out in a book on this subject by Dr. John Morris on this same subject: i.e. on the Age of the Earth.

What took these "older" sediments so long to become hard?

One would  think that a million  years would be more than enough time to turn massive sand laden sediments into sandstone,  yet we have an example of sediments which  are said to be  80 million years older than those above them, and yet they still had not become hard, but were in a wet and plastic state when an earth movement caused them to be forced up into the (supposedly much) younger sediments. Such things not only present serious problems for the evolutionary  method of  "dating", but also tell us that something is wrong with the millions of years mindset of evolutionary theory itself, and thus cause strong suspicion that we are not being told the truth by the mass media, nor the "Scientific" community of believers in evolution.  17,18,19

Mt. St. Helens:
Picture of the 'Little Grand Canyon' , Toutle river valley Three separate eruptions produced  sedimentary-type layers hundreds of feet thick.  One of these was a hurricane velocity deposit that produced thousands of thin  laminations up to 25 feet thick.   The third eruption was a lava flow,  which turned into a hot mud-flow as it  crossed the Toutle River.  This hot mud flow not only diverted  the  river, but carved a 17 mile long  series of canyons (up to 140 feet deep) in a matter of hours.  They call it the Little Grand Canyon of the Toutle River." 20,21,22  And to this very day, neither the mass media, nor any  popular  "science" publications have told the public what happened. 23  See also Mt. St. Helens: Evidence in Support of Catastrophe.

Palouse Canyon:   
In   Eastern Washington   State there is a canyon that was eroded through solid  basalt by Lake Missoula floods in 1-2 days. This canyon is 300 to 500 feet deep.  24,25,26,27,28 

An Australian Beach:
At Greenmount Beach on the Gold Coast of Queensland, an interesting thing occurred:


"clear laminations, or layering, in the sand--formed by the separation of  normal silica-sand grains and smaller, denser mineral sand-grains such as rutile which are dark  in color.. The layering was present along the whole sand mass exposed."   29

"This was produced as a result of a beach restoration project (which involved) the dredging of sand from (a) sand bar   (on)     the Tweed River and carrying it by ship several kilometres north to the southern Gold Coast beaches, where it was pumped ashore as a water/sand slurry through a large pipe to the beach." 29

See also Talking About Geology / Varves.  30

Spontaneous Sorting of Layers:
Laboratory experiments have shown  that spontaneous sorting and layering occurs with a sand, mud and clay slurry.  When the mixture slows down, the sand, mud and clay will  spontaneously precipitate (or settle out) and form individual layers.  Dr. Guy Berthault has performed a number of  experiments which demonstrate this.    31,32,33    See following links for more info and visual documentation: Evolution: Fact or Belief?, Experiments in Stratification, and Sedimentation Experiments.

Turbidity Currents: 
A turbidity current is an underwater mud flow, the discovery  of  which caused somewhat of a revolution in geology.  As a result, many sedimentary  strata layers throughout  the world have been reevaluated and found to be turbidites.    34,35,36,37,38,39,40

For example, regarding turbidites and the impact they are having on modern Geology, Kurt Howard  41  said the following in his paper on this topic:


My physical geology professor said, "Regarding uniformitarianism, you can take it  with a grain of salt."  After reviewing geology texts on the subject of turbidites, I am following the ... professor's advice. To  paraphrase his words, I am taking uniformitarianism with a grain of sand, for the philosophy of uniformitarianism states that sedimentary layers form over many millions of years, while ... recent research has shown that turbidites form within a few hours. {1}       

In  1972 Burgert  identified several lower basal Tapeats units as turbidites in Grand Canyon's Cheops Bay. Dr. Ariel Roth a geologist at Loma Linda University's Geoscience Institute, suggested that 30% of all sedimentary rocks in Grand Canyon are turbidites. Some geologists suggest that 50% of the world's sedimentary rocks might be turbidites.

Modern geologists discarded the terms   flysch  sediments and  geosyncline  because rapidly formed megathick flysch is incompatible with uniformitarianism and long ages. However, in the last few years, the number of geologists abandoning the classical uniformitarian discipline  and adopting the new catastrophism is almost a shock to ... creationists. Geologists are finally beginning to grudgingly agree with ... creationists about the nature of the stratigraphic record, which is a record of major catastrophic events and not the slow year-by-year buildup suggested by uniformitarianism. Flysch deposits might be the sedimentary results of a global  flood.  The idea of  geosynclines is  unpopular because most geologists believe in plate tectonics.     Emphasis Added

Extensive Strata and Pancake Layering:
   As we observe sedimentary strata throughout the world  we see  almost  everywhere flat-lying (or "pancake")  layered strata.  Many of these layers are so extensive that they cover several states. For example, the  Tapeats Sandstone  covers over half of the United States, and drawings from Dana's  Manual of Geology depict over 90 percent of the United States and Mexico, and half of Canada  under water.  We also know that the Grand Canyon was once under the ocean because of the marine fossils that have been found there.

Drawing depicting over 90 percent of US under waterEvolutionists believe that such layers were deposited slowly over millions and  millions of years.  Some claim that much of the strata is simply "river" deposits  or river deltas. 42,43   Creationists and a growing number of geologists see problems with such   interpretations.  44,45     First because there is virtually   no evidence  of  erosion   between the layers, and second, because the sheer size and extent of  the layers tells us that they could not have been formed by rivers, nor river deltas.  That's because many of the "layers" are quite thick and cover literally  thousands of square miles.

This, coupled with the presence of marine fossils that are buried in many of the layers, tells us that they were deposited by ocean currents by a flood or  floods like nothing we have seen in moderns times.

We can say for certain that it was the ocean (as opposed to a lake) because of the marine fossils that are buried in much of this strata.  For example, in the Grand Canyon area itself,  old Earth geologists  have said that the Ocean swept over the whole area on six  different occasions.  Young Earth geologists say it  was probably only once.




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[LittleNipper]

Proof of the Flood of Noah's time part B

A Whale of a Fossil:
   Or should we say "a fossil of a whale? It's true, but what is most interesting about it is how it was buried. In 1976, workers from the Dicalite division of Grefco inc. found the remains of a baleen whale entombed vertically in a diatomaceous earth quarry. 


"They've found fossils there before; in fact the machinery operators have learned a good deal about them and carefully annotate any they find with the name of the collector, the date, and the exact place found. Each discovery is turned over to Lawrence G. Barnes at the Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County. The Whale, however, is one of the largest fossils ever collected  anywhere... (It) is standing on end.. and is being exposed gradually as the diatomite is mined. Only the head and a small part of the body are visible as yet.

"The modern baleen whale is 80 to 90 feet long and has a head of similar size, indicating that the fossil may be close to 80 feet long.  46,47 

More Fossil Whales:


"In bogs covering glacial deposits in Michigan, skeletons of two whales were discovered ... How did they come to Michigan in the post-glacial epoch? Glaciers do not carry whales, and the ice sheet would not have brought them to the middle of a continent... Was there a sea in Michigan after the glacial epoch, only a few thousand years ago?" 48 

"Bones of Whale have been found 440  feet above sea level, north of Lake Ontario; a skeleton of another whale was discovered in Vermont, more than 500 feet above sea level; and still another in the Montreal-Quebec area, about 600 feet above sea level..."  48 

Marine Fossils In The Mountains:
  In Mountains all over the world one can find sea  shells and other marine fossils.  These include the Sierras,  the Swiss Alps, the  Himalayas and many more. 49,50,51,52,53  See also this see this video 54    by Dr. Walter Brown.  See also Seashell on the Mountaintop  by Alan Cutler.

Frozen Mammoths:     
  Mammoth from cover of "Frozen in Time' by Michael Oard Frozen mammoths and Mammoth bones are found in large  numbers in  Siberia, Alaska, and Northern Europe.  Some of these were in such good preservation that Eskimos would feed their dogs  meat from them when they became exposed due to melting  ice and snow: that  is, if wolves didn't get their first.  For more details see the Book.

Fissures In The Rocks:   
   In caves and fissures in  England  and Whales  and all over western  Europe are found bones and bone fragments of many types of extinct and extant animal species -- including the  mammoth, hippopotamus,  rhinoceros, horse, polar bear, bison, reindeer, wolf  and cave lion.  In virtually every case, the bones are disarticulated, without teeth marks, un-weathered, and in most cases broken and splintered.  55 


  "In the rock on the summit of Mont de Sautenay - a flat-topped hill  near Chalonsur-Saone between Dijon and Lyons - there is  a fissure filled with animal bones.  'Why should so many wolves, bears, horses, and oxen have ascended a hill isolated on all sides?'  asked Albert Gaudry, professor at the Jardin des Plantes.  According to him, the bones in this cleft are mostly broken and splintered into innumerable ... fragments and are 'evidently not those of animals devoured by beasts of prey; nor have  they been broken by man.  Nevertheless, the remains of  wolf  were ... abundant, together with those  of cave lion, bear, rhinoceros, horse, ox, and deer... Prestwich thought that the     ... bones... were found in common heaps because, '... [they] ... fled [there] to escape the rising waters.'" 55,56 

Erratic Boulders:
  All  over Europe and  North America are found large "erratic" "boulders" which  were transported many miles by some mysterious force -- the most likely of  which  is a massive flood  that swept over the Continents.  Concerning these Velikovsky writes:


Super Large Boulder with 100 people in lower foregound"Some erratics are enormous.  The block  near Conway,  New Hampshire, is  90 by 40 by 38 feet and weighs about 10,000 tons, the load of a large cargo ship.  Equally large is Mohegan Rock,  which towers over the town of Montville, in Connecticut.  The great  flat  erratic  in Warren County, Ohio, weighs approximately 13,500 tons and  covers three quarters of  an acre;  the Ototoks erratic, thirty  miles south  of  Calgary, Alberta, consists  of  two pieces  of  quartzite 'derived from at least 50 miles to the west,'    [and weighs] over 18,000 tons." 57

Was the Flood Local or Worldwide? 
   In the late 60's and early 70's:


"Two American oceanographic  vessels pulled from the bottom of  the Gulf of  Mexico several long, slender cores of sediment.  Included in them were the shells of tiny one-celled planktonic organisms called foraminifera.  While living on the surface, these organisms lock into their shells a chemical record of  the temperature and salinity of  the water.  When they reproduce, the shells are discarded and drop to the  bottom.  A cross-section  of that bottom ... carries a record  of climates that may go back more than 100 million years.  Every inch of  core may represent as much as 1000  years of  the earth's  past."  58 

"The cores  were analyzed in  two separate investigations, by Cesare Emiliani  of the University of Miami, and James Kennett of the University of Rhode Island and  Nicholas Shackleton  of Cambridge University.  Both analyses indicated a dramatic change in salinity,  providing compelling evidence of a vast flood of  fresh water into the Gulf of  Mexico.  Using radiocarbon, geochemist Jerry Stripp of  the University of Miami dated the flood at about 11,600  years ago."   1  To Emiliani, all  the questions and  arguments are  minor beside the single fact that a vast amount of  fresh melt water poured  into the Gulf  of  Mexico.  'We  know this,' he says, 'because the oxygen isotope ratios of  the  foraminifera shells show a  marked temporary decrease in  the salinity of  the waters  of the Gulf  of  Mexico.  It clearly shows that there  was a major period  of flooding from 12,000 to 10,000  years ago ... There was no question that there was a flood and there is no question that it was a universal  flood.     58  Emphasis Added

"Emiliani's  findings are corroborated by geologists Kennett  and Shackleton, who concluded  that there was a 'massive inpouring of  glacial melt water into the Gulf  of Mexico via the Mississippi  River system.  At the time of maximum inpouring of  this water, surface salinities were... reduced by about ten percent."   58   

The Black Sea Evidence:


"Science... has found evidence for a massive deluge that may ... have  inspired  Noah's tale.  About 7,500 years ago, a  flood  poured ten  cubic miles of  water a day -- 130 times more than  flows over Niagara Falls - from the Mediterranean Sea into the Black  Sea, abruptly  turning the formerly  freshwater lake into a  brackish inland sea."   59

"In  1993,  William Ryan  and  Walter Pitman  of  Columbia University's  Lamont-Doherty Earth  Observatory dug up cores of sediment  from the bottom of  the Black sea.  The cores showed  that the sea's  outer margins had once been dry land, indicating it had been two-thirds its  present size.  Furthermore, over the entire sea bottom was a thin, uniform layer of sediment that  could only have been deposited  during a  flood.  The researchers also found that within that layer saltwater mollusks appear, all  from the Mediterranean and all dating from around  7600 years ago." 59   

See also the PBS article on this evidence.

Miracle or Worldwide Flood?


"Such a hypothesis would  require assumption of a highly unlikely pattern of faunal migrations, where swarms of species of Manticoceras  are followed, everywhere at the same distance and  the same time interval, by swarms of species of Cheiloceras, the two waves  preserving their separate identities on a staggered mass migration around the world ...  without evolutionary changes and  without ever becoming mixed..." 60   

"It would be easy to repeat this investigation for almost every critical zone fossil or fauna throughout the geological column for hundreds,  perhaps thousands of ... cases.  The conclusions would be the same.  In the words of Jeletsky (1956) we would have  to 'invoke a miracle',  if,  for example, we were to assume anything but world-wide contemporaneous  deposition for each of the 55 ammonite zones of the Jurassic.  Not all of them occur everywhere, but wherever two or more are found in superposition they occur in the same order.   60  Arkell ... summarized the picture of ... Mesozoic ammonoids as follows:

'Evolution is above all very uneven.  Certain periods were outstandingly productive of  new and verile forms  which often seem to have sprung into existence  from nowhere ... and to have become dominant almost simultaneously over a large part of  the world ... How such sudden multiple creations were brought about is a task for the future to determine.'" 60, 61   

Note: Manticoceras and Cheiloceras are two different types of ammonites.

Worldwide Chaos and Out of Order Fossils:
The following excerpts provide further evidence that something is amiss with the Geological Time Chart and the associated Theory of Evolution itself.


"I regard the failure to find a clear 'vector of progress' in life's history as the most puzzling  fact of the fossil record."  62  And that: 
   
"Heretofore, we have thrown up our hands in frustration at  the lack  of expected pattern in life's  history --  or we have  sought to impose a pattern that we hoped to find on a world that does not really display it If  we can develop a ... theory of mass extinction, we may finally understand why life has thwarted our expectations, and ... extract an  unexpected ... pattern from apparent chaos. 62

"One of  the ironies of  the evolution-creation debate is that the creationists have accepted the mistaken notion that the fossil record shows a detailed and orderly progression..."  63

"... only 15-20%  of the earth's land surface has even 3 geologic  periods appearing in 'correct' consecutive order."  64 
                     
   "Any sequence in which an older fossil occurs above a younger one is stratigraphically disordered ... disorder may be  from millimeters to many meters ... (and) is produced by  the physical or biogenic mixing of ... sediments ... Since these processes occur to an extent in virtually all sedimentary systems, stratigraphic  disorder at some scale is probably a common feature of  the fossil record." 65

"The extent of disorder is ... not well documented; however, the widespread occurrence of anomalies ... suggest that disorder should be taken seriously ..."  ref. 61  p. 234.  W. J. Arkell.   

   "Examination of Britain's record of  the Ice Age levels discloses  a 'complex interbedding of drift sheets derived from different sources.'  'When we add the additional complications imposed by thin  drifts, scanty interglacial deposits, and  the frequent presence in  fossil - bearing beds of secondary [displaced]  fossils derived from the reworking of older horizons, we get a truly difficult overall problem ... All in all, British glacial  stratigraphic research  has encountered exceptional  difficulties,' writes  R. F. Flint, professor of geology  at Yale University.  66, 67   Emphasis Added
   

Problematica: 
  "Problematica"  is the "code word" paleontologists use to describe out of order fossils, or those that are not easily placed, or that are misplaced,  interbedded, or "mixed" in with other strata of a different "date."  According to an online Italian to English dictionary the term means "problems." Several years ago, a Google search on this term yielded over a million hits.  To some, if not many that seems like a lot of problems for uniformitarian geology to explain.  A few such problems are discussed in an article called Sea sloths and out of order Fossils.       

For more information on the Worldwide Flood, or  how a Boat with Thousands of Animals onboard could possibly have survived see the links below. 
 



  References 
   Flood Legends
Days or Epochs 
Polystrate Fossils
Scripture Evidence   
   The La Brea Tar Pits
  The Florida Everglades
  Psalm 104 and the Flood   
More Scriptural Evidence
    Evidence from Cyclothems
    Questions about Noah's Flood
  Evidence for a Worldwide Flood   
Tectonic Wedge Resonance Theory
  Sea Sloths and Out of Order Fossils


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[drunkenshoe]

Funny thing is I met a few Texans in my life face to face and they were all heathen democrats. And I met them in Turkey. One has been married to a heathen turkish women for a long time.  Another one was studying Turkey in foriegn affairs, we met online and then in person when he visited here. He was a real anti-republican.

But then it's been my luck I guess. It took me just a few hours to find the most anti-Israeli/American policy Jew available on the planet in the first bar I sat down in NYC. With an Auschwitz granny no less. Ffs he put me in a coma with evil American policies, 9/11 and Israeli conspiracies under an hour. 

[LittleNipper]

As you can see above, there is far more evidence of The Flood or Deluge from the time of Noah than Evolutionists and Uniformitarians are willing to admit to. But why indeed would they? They would be undermining their own position. The reality is that most fossils are clearly the result of a catastrophic event and not some rare show of evolution through the eons. The Flood of Noah was a real event and it was a worldwide event.

The probability is that the earth as it existed prior to the Flood was relatively flat with rolling hills. This is revealed in the Genesis story and also by a description of the new earth as described in Revelation. The jagged mountains, mountain ranges, volcanic islands, etc... are the result of the fracturing of the crust of the Earth during and after the Flood. To note evidence of the Flood, one must be willing to include all its aspects.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

As you can see above, there is far more evidence of The Flood or Deluge from the time of Noah than Evolutionists and Uniformitarians are willing to admit to.

You may remain in the Dark Ages if you wish. The world won't wait for you.

[drunkenshoe]

As you can see above, there is far more evidence of The Flood or Deluge from the time of Noah than Evolutionists and Uniformitarians are willing to admit to. But why indeed would they? They would be undermining their own position. The reality is that most fossils are clearly the result of a catastrophic event and not some rare show of evolution through the eons. The Flood of Noah was a real event and it was a worldwide event.

The probability is that the earth as it existed prior to the Flood was relatively flat with rolling hills. This is revealed in the Genesis story and also by a description of the new earth as described in Revelation. The jagged mountains, mountain ranges, volcanic islands, etc... are the result of the fracturing of the crust of the Earth during and after the Flood. To note evidence of the Flood, one must be willing to include all its aspects.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

He looks better without that cyst.

[sdelsolray]

LittleNipper is a surrogate for creationist whore and liar for Jesus Randy S. Berg.

That's funny.

[drunkenshoe]

LittleNipper is a surrogate for creationist whore and liar for Jesus Randy S. Berg.

That's funny.

Easy with the language.

[LittleNipper]

You may remain in the Dark Ages if you wish. The world won't wait for you.

The real question: Who is in the Dark Ages and who is Enlightened. Not being able to read helped to usher in the Dark Ages. Being able to read the Bible in one's own language is what brought in the Renaissance. I would suggest many here are living in the shadows of someone else's interpretation of both the Universe and the Bible. They clearly have not come to an informed conclusion of their own investigation.

[Baruch]

The real question: Who is in the Dark Ages and who is Enlightened. Not being able to read helped to usher in the Dark Ages. Being able to read the Bible in one's own language is what brought in the Renaissance. I would suggest many here are living in the shadows of someone else's interpretation of both the Universe and the Bible. They clearly have not come to an informed conclusion of their own investigation.

Small error, printed Bibles enabled the Reformation.  The Renaissance was a Catholic phenomenon.  Gutenberg was just getting going then, and then went promptly bankrupt.