The Refugee Crisis

[SGOS]

Socialism isn't the real problem ... inability to take arithmetic seriously is.  I don't believe in the Europe is socialist, America is capitalist meme.  We believe in different free stuff.

Wish I could have pressed the "like" button twice on that one.

[Baruch]

Wish I could have pressed the "like" button twice on that one.

There will be other opportunities in other threads ;-) ... I am really tired of propaganda ... for my whole long life.  It took many years to see past it.  There are no real socialists or capitalists ... just assholes and the regular folks they prey on.

[josephpalazzo]

No such thing as free healthcare. Or free anything. Someone has to pay for it.

To the refugee who gets it without having paid into it, it is free as far as he is concerned.

[Baruch]

To the refugee who gets it without having paid into it, it is free as far as he is concerned.

That is the view of the thief.  But then the government shares the same view ... as the highest organized crime syndicate in its jurisdiction.  Children are thieves also, for at least 20 years ... unless you are Dickensian.

It is the direct view of present governments, that even if you put into it, it belongs to the government ... hence the desire to simply transfer the SS and Medicare from a debit to the government, to a credit.  But then that is just the kind of creative accounting you would expect from the Godfather.

[pr126]

More than half the nation's governors say Syrian refugees not welcome

(CNN)More than half the nation's governors -- 26 states -- say they oppose letting Syrian refugees into their states, although the final say on this contentious immigration issue will fall to the federal government.

States protesting the admission of refugees range from Alabama and Georgia, to Texas and Arizona, to Michigan and Illinois, to Maine and New Hampshire. Among these 26 states, all but one have Republican governors.

The announcements came after authorities revealed that at least one of the suspects believed to be involved in the Paris terrorist attacks entered Europe among the current wave of Syrian refugees. He had falsely identified himself as a Syrian named Ahmad al Muhammad and was allowed to enter Greece in early October.

[facebook164]

No such thing as free healthcare. Or free anything. Someone has to pay for it.

Of course!That is what society is about! Taking care of each other! Building infrastructure and a base for decent living.

[pr126]

Of course!That is what society is about! Taking care of each other! Building infrastructure and a base for decent living.

I can see you now standing on the street corner handing out money to strangers.  For building infrastructure and a base for decent living, of course.

Well done that man.
Hope you have plenty money, there are millions more coming for your handout.

[Baruch]

Of course!That is what society is about! Taking care of each other! Building infrastructure and a base for decent living.

Social Darwinists don't agree.  They believe in $&%6 the other guy before he $*$74 you.  For them, life is all carnivores all the time ... except they ignore that the carnivores can't survive without the herbivores.  Unfortunately society always puts the assholes in charge ... it is chimp sociology.

[pr126]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3MvinY66r0

I wonder if any of those young German women who were so enthusiastically welcomed the "refugees" recently have been already gang raped by those nice Middle Eastern males? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9TOdMzOH1U#t=140

[Baruch]

To the refugee who gets it without having paid into it, it is free as far as he is concerned.

Which is why we had forced labor camps ... and poor houses (like in Victorian times).  But are we really concerned about virtue ... and how only middle class or upper class folks should get government benefits ... because they are so obviously virtuous?  Children are held to a different standard now than adults ... but we used to allow child labor ... and some people want to bring it back (why should Jr get to go to school instead of work in a coal mine for 20 years).  That and we need to up the retirement age to 70 or higher (sarc).

Not you personally ... but there are people who in their minds would prefer to supervise with a lash ... so demonstrate their superior virtue.  There is as much a problem of fraud with a meritocracy as with any other social stratification scheme.  Are we superior to India?  I think not.

PS - I have heard from others, who have been to Germany, that if an unaccompanied young woman enters a bar there ... they have their own gang rape culture going on (after they get her drunk).  Germany is the land of hard ass dominatrices too ... so it would appear to go both ways (at least for a minority).  Given that, and the prejudice of ME folks about all Western women being prostitutes ... we can expect more of this.

[Baruch]

I can see you now standing on the street corner handing out money to strangers.  For building infrastructure and a base for decent living, of course.

Well done that man.
Hope you have plenty money, there are millions more coming for your handout.

This is a Biblical problem ... aka very old problem.  I have a problem knowing when to donate and not donate.  No human society has ever solved it, but has managed to create quite a few failures trying.  Urbanization and reduction of patriarchalism has made it worse ;-)  Every person should be on a farm, run by their grandfather, and there should be no cities (Canaanites).  Non-agriculture work is un-virtuous ... or even non-Bedouin work is un-virtuous (farmers are just so many Canaanites too).  Abraham's roving motorcycle gang (but with donkeys ... carbon virtuous).  And if you disobey your grandfather, then stoning is your just reward.  But even that primitive society had a problem with too many children ... Abraham should have run things better ... not allowed anyone any sex (chastity devices) except when he allowed it, according to his Five Year Plan (oh that was that first Joseph, Vizier of Egypt ... who invented forced (grain) savings for future bad times (according to the story)).

[pr126]

You do ramble on Baruch. Lay off the booze.

[drunkenshoe]

Socialism isn't the real problem ... inability to take arithmetic seriously is.  I don't believe in the Europe is socialist, America is capitalist meme.  We believe in different free stuff.

[Baruch]

You do ramble on Baruch. Lay off the booze.

Modern people are just ancient people with fancier clothes and faster chariots.  The past is always prologue.

[SilentFutility]

Yay integration, yay tolerance, and three cheers for multiculturalism.

2015 will be looked back upon in 100 years as a key year in the gradual erosion of Europeans in Europe.