The Refugee Crisis

[CloneKai]

How much control does your government have over the internet? Were you to go on an atheist forum in Pakistan, would the government know? Do you know anyone in Pakistan getting in trouble for going on Atheist websites?

No, never heard of such issues.
There are actually active Pakistani atheist bloggers and facebook group page too. the government doesn't really seems to mind. the problem seems to be the batshit crazy people here. they go insane very easily, half the time they lynch the accused blasphemers. and that is why there are some discussion about changing the blasphemy laws.
In higher middle class, the neighborhood might know you are an atheist, and you won't have much of an issue (i know of 2 cases).

as for the control over the internet, they didn't have much control over it before banning of youtube and all those porn sites. but now there are rumors that pakistan is taking a leaf out of NSA book and trying to create something similar.

[pr126]

[jonb]

True there is no difference the two images have been put together for the single purpose of propaganda.

Meanwhile Idris Rahman blows his saxophone

https://youtu.be/owlcvutaFVs?

to destroy multi cultural London, and bring about the Caliphate where music is banned.

[pr126]

jonb wrote:

True there is no difference the two images have been put together for the single purpose of propaganda.

And what propaganda are you spreading?

[josephpalazzo]

No, never heard of such issues.
There are actually active Pakistani atheist bloggers and facebook group page too. the government doesn't really seems to mind. the problem seems to be the batshit crazy people here. they go insane very easily, half the time they lynch the accused blasphemers. and that is why there are some discussion about changing the blasphemy laws.
In higher middle class, the neighborhood might know you are an atheist, and you won't have much of an issue (i know of 2 cases).

as for the control over the internet, they didn't have much control over it before banning of youtube and all those porn sites. but now there are rumors that pakistan is taking a leaf out of NSA book and trying to create something similar.

What is the prevailing idea of Pakistanis in regard to the refugee crisis that is going on in the EU? Does it get much coverage in Pakistan's media?

[CloneKai]

What is the prevailing idea of Pakistanis in regard to the refugee crisis that is going on in the EU? Does it get much coverage in Pakistan's media?

Don't know, since i am not there right now. only news i get here is international news.

[jonb]

jonb wrote:And what propaganda are you spreading?

I do it subliminally

https://youtu.be/ITpgYewlwNw

[josephpalazzo]

Don't know, since i am not there right now. only news i get here is international news.

Would that be due to the government censorship, or is it the norm that the media in Pakistan self-censored so as not to get in trouble with the government?

[pr126]

A Refugee Says: “Don’t Let Any More Refugees Into Germany!”

Germany is simply unable to handle the processing of the volume of migrants.
There are way too many.
With the winter coming, tents are not a good solution. Where to put them all?

Housing, medical, food, sanitation, schools (altough very few children) welfare etc.
None of this was in place or organised prior to handle such an avalanche of migrants.   

And this is just the first wave. There will be much more, they are already on the way.

An unstoppable flood of people from many countries, only a few are real Syrian refugees.
The rest are opportunitists.

[josephpalazzo]

The German authorities will have to work real fast as winter approaches. And definitely, not letting any more refugees at this point in time would be a wise decision. On another note, perhaps Putin will double his efforts to stop the carnage in Syria, and this could help in the sense that Syrians will start to look forward in rebuilding their country and not run away to places like the EU which is badly overrun with too many refugees that it cannot help anymore.

[CloneKai]

Would that be due to the government censorship, or is it the norm that the media in Pakistan self-censored so as not to get in trouble with the government?

Na! its just Yahoo news has more international news than pakistani media and i enjoy the funny comments .
i never heard of any real censorship issues involving news or stuffs.

[CloneKai]

@pr126
I think you will like this

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?455134-Leave-the-west!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:58:

[mauricio]

@pr126
I think you will like this

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?455134-Leave-the-west!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:58:

''Agreed that the environment is not safe for Muslims in the West and it will get worse but things aren't exactly safe in Muslim countries either and as we approach the end of days, the clash of civilizations is inevitable where Muslims will fight the none Muslims (if we can stop fighting each other first) and everyone will be caught up no matter where they are so is it really worth leaving this country? By living in fear and running way, we are already admitting defeat. Allah(SWT) will always protect us if we truly believe in Him so no worries. Relax bro"

jesus that level of delusion... that is not how the real world works.

Reading that thread is depressing how are this people supposed to survive if they do not seems to even understand what is happening...

[josephpalazzo]

@pr126
I think you will like this

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?455134-Leave-the-west!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:58:

There are so many contradictions in what they say. For instance, if you believe that your fate is in the hands of a god, then why leave a war torn country??? Allah will take care of you. So why do you worry if you have to leave or not?? Stay in your country and see how it unfolds.

[pr126]

Hijrah, Emigration, originates from when Muhammed left Mekkah and marched with his followers to Yathrib, later renamed Medina, to conquer.
The Islamic calendar starts with the year of the Hijrah.

Furthermore:

Every Muslim by defenition must be a "missionary" for want of a better word.
It is incumbent on Muslims to spread Islam, to do dawah.


This is also acheved by invading or more recently emigrating to the non Muslim lands to spread Islam.
So the call to "leave the west" is contrary to Islamic imperatives.

Let's not forget that these migrants are mostly males, and they will bring their clans after a short time (at the host countries expense) which will increase the numbers of migrants exponentially.


Modern Day Trojan Horse: Al-Hijra, the Islamic Doctrine of Immigration, Accepting Freedom or Imposing Islam?

The first fundamental principle for the creation of a successfully visible Islamic society is to be separate and distinct... "Sam Solomon and E Al Maqdisi have provided the general Western public a valuable service in publishing this book." Rev Dr Patrick Sookhdeo Director of the Institute for the Study of Islam and Christianity "If only one piece of information pertaining to Muslims and Islam is ever read, it would be this book on Al-Hijra." N Keas Phd Lecturer and Communication Consultant "I hope that every person in the Western world reads it, including the sleeping political elite. This book should bring about a much needed awakening." Geert Wilders MP Chairman Party for Freedom (PVV) Sam Solomon, a convert to Christianity and an expert on Islam, is a senior lecturer and research coordinator, a human rights activist and an advisor to British as well as European parliamentarians. Sam has authored a number of thought-provoking books and numerous articles on Christian Muslim relations. E Al Maqdisi is a prolific writer and debater, an author of some 15 books, and a regular contributor to many Internet sites on this complex subject of Islam and its teachings.