Donald is in trouble

[Hydra009]

Trump supporters call for violence when things don't go their way

The "Law and Order" people showing their true colors once again.  I'm sick of tiptoeing around the fragile feelings of these lunatics.  If they try to do something stupid and illegal, they should absolutely be locked up.  They should thank their lucky starts that their orange messiah isn't in prison right now.  If anybody else did half the stuff he did, the judge would throw the book at them.

[Hydra009]

Guess which newspaper is right-wing.

[Mr.Obvious]

The right be on the left

[Dark Lightning]

I wouldn't use the New York Post to wipe my ass.

[Unbeliever]

I wouldn't line a birdcage with the NY Post!

[ferdmonger]

I wouldn't line a birdcage with the NY Post!

I would.

[ferdmonger]

Interviews with 'the man on the street' reveal the level of Trumpers. 

'Well, they say a crime was committed, but it's not much of a crime in my book.'

34 felonies?  A fraudulent university and charity, criminal sexual assault? Don't care.  Tell me again this isn't a cult. It is absurd that anyone actually supports this man for president.

Mike Johnson wants to tell you that this is a political trial and not a legal trial. Just a quick note to Mr. Johnson... this started with a grand jury.  Then there were defense attorneys, a judge, and jurors.  Mikey... this was a legal proceeding.  Get over it. 

[ferdmonger]

And I'm really, really sick of the 'banana republic' crap.  In actual banana republics, leaders have no fear whatever of prosecution.  Completely ass backwards, but a sound bite is a sound bite I guess, and asking Trumpers for any introspection is a bridge too far.

[Dark Lightning]

If the chump does get re-elected, we will see what a "banana republic" really looks like. It's all projection and/or fantasy with his cult followers.

[ferdmonger]

If the chump does get re-elected, we will see what a "banana republic" really looks like. It's all projection and/or fantasy with his cult followers.

The entire platform is 'retribution'.  It's the only platform needed with MAGAs.   

[Dark Lightning]

The entire platform is 'retribution'.  It's the only platform needed with MAGAs.   

My take. Union busting and off-shoring of production led to loss of jobs among the lesser-educated. It used to be that there was a blue-collar living wage. Corporate greed killed that. Now, all those disenfranchised people are understandably angry, and the chump whips the anger, all the while working on making those people's situations worse.

[ferdmonger]

Man, Lawrence O'Donnell was on fire tonight.  Reading 34 count of 'guilty'.  Ouch.

[Hydra009]

My take. Union busting and off-shoring of production led to loss of jobs among the lesser-educated. It used to be that there was a blue-collar living wage. Corporate greed killed that. Now, all those disenfranchised people are understandably angry, and the chump whips the anger, all the while working on making those people's situations worse.

This is really horrible, because they actually do have legitimate grievances.  But falling for fake news and con men (people who say covid is a hoax while getting their own jab) and sucking up to oligarch-billionaires (who do they think killed their unions, kept wages stagnant while inflating CEO pay, and shipped jobs overseas?) is such an enormously bad take that it arouses more pity and frustration than anger.

Unfortunately, there's no real way of really getting through to them anymore.  They're just going to have to be outvoted by people with more class solidarity and empathy for fellow Americans.  Decent people still exist and in large numbers - they simply have to vote.  And unfortunately, this frustrated (and frustrating) class of Americans will either die mad that they were helped in some small way or die miserable in a "traditional" conservative backwater without ever putting two and two together.  More's the pity.

edit - this upsets me more than most because I'm somewhat partial to "populism" (the idea that regular people should have more say in politics and political leaders should devote more attention to their needs, rather than the needs of people who own mansions) and there's theoretically a lot of common ground between the American left and right in this, but you start talking details = like a $15 minimum wage - and these people lose their top.  *sigh*  Also, I'm not super thrilled about populism getting dragged through the mud by people like Trump.  I got some flak in 2020 from Democrats who didn't like "populist demagogues" like Trump and Sanders, as if the two were batting on the same team or something.  Elites love Trump not only for the support he gives them, but the support he takes away from people who would actually help the working class.

[Cassia]

Well-put Hydra. Trying demographics is hard to deal with and politicians are the obvious target. A huge, aging generation with plenty of wealthy that make up a very divisive "financial class" have thrown their cohorts under the bus while getting them to blame big government, immigrants and lazy millennials.

"There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution."
― John Adams, The works of John Adams,: Second President of the United States

[Gawdzilla Sama]

O tempore, O mores.