The Bible and Quran speaks of genocide. Followers are evil!

Started by mediumaevum, January 14, 2014, 11:12:36 AM

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mediumaevum

I have cleaned up my previous post, because it can be misintepreted as racist.
I am NOT a racist, and I do not see people who define themselves as "Christian", "Jew" or "Muslim" as being evil people.

BUT! I do not see their holy books (The Bible, and The Quran) as being books that favors genocide.
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1. The Bible speaks of a God who committed genocide (by destroying the cities of Sodoma and Gomora, killing everyone or nearly everyone in the cities).

2. People of the Bible, those who worship the God in the Bible, believes God is doing the right thing.

3. People who believes God is doing the right thing, believe that when God destroyed Sodoma and Gomora, killing many people, God did the right thing.

4. People believing in God of the Bible, worship the God of the Bible.

5. People who worship the God of the Bible, worship the killing of many people (genocide).

6. People who believe in the Bible believes in genocide.

mediumaevum

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Actually, U.N. should ban and demand the imprisonment of every single Christian (who believs in genocide), Muslim (who believes in genocide) or Jew (who believes in genocide), for propagandizing in favor of genocide! EDIT: NOT imprisoning people who were just brought up as Christians, Muslims or Jews, only those propaganding genocide!

They're dangerous to society! They're dangerous to humanity!

You can't be a Christian and not believe in genocide, for then you do not believe in the Bible (hence you are not a Christian!)

How come democratic countries like Denmark has an anti-blasphemy law, protecting pro-genocide provocateurs, whilst imprisoning people who dares to
defend humanity?


mediumaevum

I am not being racist, in-fact, I believe that any race (if there exists races, we are all humans!)
should have equal opportunities.

Of course there are people who are brought up as, let's say, Muslims, but don't believe in genocide.
They are not real muslims, because if you don't believe in genocide, you don't believe in the Quran either.

Youssuf Ramadan

Quote from: "mediumaevum"I am not being racist, in-fact, I believe that any race (if there exists races, we are all humans!)
should have equal opportunities.

Of course there are people who are brought up as, let's say, Muslims, but don't believe in genocide.
They are not real muslims, because if you don't believe in genocide, you don't believe in the Quran either.

Who gets to decide who is or is not a 'real' muslim, jew, Christian etc?

mediumaevum

Quote from: "Youssuf Ramadan"
Quote from: "mediumaevum"I am not being racist, in-fact, I believe that any race (if there exists races, we are all humans!)
should have equal opportunities.

Of course there are people who are brought up as, let's say, Muslims, but don't believe in genocide.
They are not real muslims, because if you don't believe in genocide, you don't believe in the Quran either.

Who gets to decide who is or is not a 'real' muslim, jew, Christian etc?

Their Holy Books.

If, for example, the Quran, which defines muslims by some criteria, one of them being they DON'T eat pork, if you DO eat pork, you are not a muslim.

The Quran proclaims genocide, because Allah did so, and the Quran demands you to worship Allah.

So, by NOT worshipping genocide, you do not worship Allah, thus you do not fulfill the criteria of being a Muslim.

Youssuf Ramadan

Quote from: "mediumaevum"
Quote from: "Youssuf Ramadan"
Quote from: "mediumaevum"I am not being racist, in-fact, I believe that any race (if there exists races, we are all humans!)
should have equal opportunities.

Of course there are people who are brought up as, let's say, Muslims, but don't believe in genocide.
They are not real muslims, because if you don't believe in genocide, you don't believe in the Quran either.

Who gets to decide who is or is not a 'real' muslim, jew, Christian etc?

Their Holy Books.

If, for example, the Quran, which defines muslims by some criteria, one of them being they DON'T eat pork, if you DO eat pork, you are not a muslim.

The Quran proclaims genocide, because Allah did so, and the Quran demands you to worship Allah.

So, by NOT worshipping genocide, you do not worship Allah, thus you do not fulfill the criteria of being a Muslim.

So you have to follow the holy books to the letter in order to be considered a 'real' whatever?

When did you decide this?

Each religion has a massive spectrum of observance.  I'm surprised you don't know this.  Every one else seems to.   :rolleyes:

mediumaevum

Quote from: "Youssuf Ramadan"Each religion has a massive spectrum of observance.  I'm surprised you don't know this.  Every one else seems to.   :rolleyes:


There are definitions of everything.

If I say "I am a murderer" and someone asks me who I killed, and I reply "none", we would get into a discussion about what it means to be a murderer, and surely I would get arrested.

But Christians can easily get away with saying "I believe in the sayings of God in the Bible (and the holy sayings say that God committed genocide)" without getting in trouble for openly expressing their opinion in favor of genocide.

It's kinda misguiding when someone of a particular religion express that they belong to that religion and support their holy book of whatever, then say they don't support it anyway...

mediumaevum

I just got told and also realized that my logic about this is full of fallacies and non-sequiturs.

Sorry for any inconveniences.