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Title: U.S. Police Forces Trained in Israel, Former IDF Soldiers
Post by: Shiranu on May 26, 2021, 09:18:34 PM
I was watching a video of Israeli police shooting a girl in the leg for following their orders, then shooting her dad in the leg and hitting them with a sound grenade, and a thought came into my head... "Holy shit, the way the Israeli police move and behave looks creepy similar to American police."

Well lo-and-fucking-behold...

On federal taxpayer dime we send our police to be trained by terrorist to come back home and be terrorists, or import the terrorists here to teach them.
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When the U.S. Department of Justice published a report (https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-findings-investigation-baltimore-police-department) Aug. 10 that documented “widespread constitutional violations, discriminatory enforcement, and culture of retaliation” within the Baltimore Police Department (BPD), there was rightly a general reaction of outrage.

But what hasn’t received as much attention is where Baltimore police received training on crowd control, use of force and surveillance: Israel’s national police, military and intelligence services.

Baltimore law enforcement officials, along with hundreds of others from Florida (http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/US-police-chiefs-visit-Israel-to-learn-counter-terrorism-techniques-463090), New Jersey (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/164740), Pennsylvania, California (http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-trains-us-law-enforcement-in-counter-terrorism/), Arizona (http://projectinterchange.org/?seminar_id=4536), Connecticut, New York (https://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2012/09/nypd-now-has-an-israel-branch.html), Massachusetts, North Carolina (http://www.jinsa.org/files/LEEPbookletforweb.pdf), Georgia (http://atlantajewishtimes.com/2016/07/gilee-trains-11-atlanta-area-officials-israel/), Washington state (http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-trains-us-law-enforcement-in-counter-terrorism/) as well as the DC Capitol police (http://www.aipac.org/-/media/publications/policy-and-politics/aipac-analyses/issue-memos/2013/03/homeland.pdf) have all traveled to Israel for training. Thousands of others have received training from Israeli officials here in the U.S. (http://www.jinsa.org/events-programs/law-enforcement-exchange-program-leep/all)


https://www.amnestyusa.org/with-whom-are-many-u-s-police-departments-training-with-a-chronic-human-rights-violator-israel/ (https://www.amnestyusa.org/with-whom-are-many-u-s-police-departments-training-with-a-chronic-human-rights-violator-israel/)
Title: Re: U.S. Police Forces Trained in Israel, Former IDF Soldiers
Post by: Cassia on May 26, 2021, 09:55:22 PM
I really liked the local sheriff and cops when I was a kid. They would drive my drunk father home from the bar, eat donuts, smile, and help people. More like Mayberry than the IDF. 'War on drugs' was the enzyme that started this.
Title: Re: U.S. Police Forces Trained in Israel, Former IDF Soldiers
Post by: GSOgymrat on May 26, 2021, 10:20:46 PM
Yes, I remember after 9/11 Israel trained a lot of US law enforcement and consulted with US government agencies because the Israelis were considered experts in counterterrorism.
Title: Re: U.S. Police Forces Trained in Israel, Former IDF Soldiers
Post by: Blackleaf on May 27, 2021, 12:10:39 AM
Yes, I remember after 9/11 Israel trained a lot of US law enforcement and consulted with US government agencies because the Israelis were considered experts in counterterrorism.

Yes, Israel has a rich history of counterterrorism. Truly, they are God's chosen people.
Title: Re: U.S. Police Forces Trained in Israel, Former IDF Soldiers
Post by: Cassia on May 28, 2021, 10:46:08 AM
Yes, Israel has a rich history of counterterrorism. Truly, they are God's chosen people.
Besides killing civilians, another problem with these attacks by Israel is they serve to further 'jihadize' the region. Hamas has certainly stepped up the fundamentalist restrictions these last few decades and not without some protest.

I wonder if there is any possibility for the so-called three state solution whereby Gaza returns to Egyptian rule, and the West Bank to Jordan, that nation being already comprised of many Palestinians? No solution will make everybody happy, but that answer could work to end the violence and at least provide some stability.
Title: Re: U.S. Police Forces Trained in Israel, Former IDF Soldiers
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on May 28, 2021, 12:30:55 PM
That whole corner of the world can go to hell.
Title: Re: U.S. Police Forces Trained in Israel, Former IDF Soldiers
Post by: Cassia on May 28, 2021, 01:14:42 PM
That whole corner of the world can go to hell.
Religion...giving hope to people in a world torn apart by religion
Title: Re: U.S. Police Forces Trained in Israel, Former IDF Soldiers
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on May 29, 2021, 02:40:31 PM
Religion...giving hope to people in a world torn apart by religion
And blood feuds. Don't forget those. AND, of course, this is the area where organized warfare was invented and perfected.
Title: Re: U.S. Police Forces Trained in Israel, Former IDF Soldiers
Post by: Shiranu on May 29, 2021, 07:46:13 PM
Europe and China...

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Title: Re: U.S. Police Forces Trained in Israel, Former IDF Soldiers
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on May 29, 2021, 08:01:03 PM
European has had a nearly perpetual civil war going since some Italians crossed the Rhine.
Title: Re: U.S. Police Forces Trained in Israel, Former IDF Soldiers
Post by: Shiranu on May 29, 2021, 09:46:24 PM
European has had a nearly perpetual civil war going since some Italians crossed the Rhine.

Pretty much.

Practice makes perfect.
Title: Re: U.S. Police Forces Trained in Israel, Former IDF Soldiers
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on May 30, 2021, 09:00:09 AM
Pretty much.

Practice makes perfect.
An Asian friend told me he was okay with Europe being its own continent, otherwise the history of "Asia" would be a whole lot more horrible. I often really do feel somewhat bad for you folks who have to live there, but then Octoberfest comes along and I'm fine for a while.