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Title: Was Albert Einstein a hack
Post by: Kibla92 on September 04, 2020, 04:28:43 PM
He is credited often for E=mc2 formula. But he didnt discover it first. Scientists before him figured it out way before he got to it. He was however the first to coin it. So my question is this. Should a scientist be aknowledged for first one to inventing it? Or first one to coin it?
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/was-einstein-the-first-to-invent-e-mc2/
https://www.quora.com/Did-Albert-Einstein-steal-the-idea-for-the-relativity-theory-There-are-rumors-that-various-scientists-published-the-basic-ideas-of-the-relativity-theory-earlier-and-Einstein-did-not-cite-them-at-all-in-his-publications-Is-this-true
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hendrik_Lorentz

Other thing he is known for is light year. Which is pure science fiction way of messurements. You cant really messure light. I have heard argument that the delay in "Turning on and off light is what they messure." but that to me makes no sense. A light turns on like "instant, and lights up"

If anything. I would prefer if it was messurements on a plane of the year between Earth and Moon. Messuring the length in miles, and just call it moon years. Atleast that to me makes sense.

HE was also one to urge development of nuclear bombs, because the fear that nazis would make one. Although he would regret it later. Even though i dont think he was part of Manhattan project to make the bomb himself.

But yeah. I dont get why people have Einstein as a pop culture scientist rolemodel. Even Nikola Tesla didnt take him seriously. If anything, why not have Nikola Tesla as role model for a scientist? Why Einstein? I just dont see how he did anything notable is what i mean.
Title: Re: Was Albert Einstein a hack
Post by: Baruch on September 04, 2020, 05:09:40 PM
Every development stands on the shoulders of prior giants (so said Newton).  And Einstein was just a patent clerk at first.  But he did eventually get his PhD, but he was a loner. a rake, and not a good teacher.  Certainly not a paragon, but who is?

The Italian version of the story of early Einstein is best for his humanity ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7PUacSHEIw

Of course his smart wife, who helped with his early papers, didn't get any credit.

Right person at right place at right time ... how much credit is that?  But a committee actually doesn't make original work, they can only develop already existing work.  A new idea can only form in one head.  Newton wasn't any better, quite a nut.
Title: Re: Was Albert Einstein a hack
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 04, 2020, 05:12:24 PM
Kibby wants to be a genus!
Title: Re: Was Albert Einstein a hack
Post by: Baruch on September 04, 2020, 05:17:48 PM
Kibby wants to be a genus!

Aren't primates already a genus? ;-))

Not an expert, but I have studied Relativity theory since I was a teen, as mental exercise.
Title: Re: Was Albert Einstein a hack
Post by: Mike Cl on September 04, 2020, 05:42:27 PM
He is credited often for E=mc2 formula. But he didnt discover it first. Scientists before him figured it out way before he got to it. He was however the first to coin it. So my question is this. Should a scientist be aknowledged for first one to inventing it? Or first one to coin it?
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/was-einstein-the-first-to-invent-e-mc2/
https://www.quora.com/Did-Albert-Einstein-steal-the-idea-for-the-relativity-theory-There-are-rumors-that-various-scientists-published-the-basic-ideas-of-the-relativity-theory-earlier-and-Einstein-did-not-cite-them-at-all-in-his-publications-Is-this-true
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hendrik_Lorentz

Other thing he is known for is light year. Which is pure science fiction way of messurements. You cant really messure light. I have heard argument that the delay in "Turning on and off light is what they messure." but that to me makes no sense. A light turns on like "instant, and lights up"

If anything. I would prefer if it was messurements on a plane of the year between Earth and Moon. Messuring the length in miles, and just call it moon years. Atleast that to me makes sense.

HE was also one to urge development of nuclear bombs, because the fear that nazis would make one. Although he would regret it later. Even though i dont think he was part of Manhattan project to make the bomb himself.

But yeah. I dont get why people have Einstein as a pop culture scientist rolemodel. Even Nikola Tesla didnt take him seriously. If anything, why not have Nikola Tesla as role model for a scientist? Why Einstein? I just dont see how he did anything notable is what i mean.
What is a 'messure'?  Ah, now I get it--it's what you make--a mess for sure--a messure.
Title: Re: Was Albert Einstein a hack
Post by: Gawdzilla Sama on September 04, 2020, 06:11:12 PM
Aren't primates already a genus? ;-))
And?
Title: Re: Was Albert Einstein a hack
Post by: Baruch on September 04, 2020, 06:22:23 PM
And?

Any slightest mistake, in spelling or punctuation is a sign you aren't Woke, so I was told by the geniuses who used to post here (whereas I admit I am a forgetful old man and proud of it).
Title: Re: Was Albert Einstein a hack
Post by: Cassia on September 04, 2020, 07:02:24 PM
Other thing he is known for is light year. Which is pure science fiction way of messurements. You cant really messure light. I have heard argument that the delay in "Turning on and off light is what they messure." but that to me makes no sense. A light turns on like "instant, and lights up"

That's good. I have an equation just for you. IQ=[1/C**2]-1.


Title: Re: Was Albert Einstein a hack
Post by: SGOS on September 05, 2020, 10:23:32 AM
Kibla is suffering from degenerative nonsense syndrome.  Could we lock him in a thread for the mentally insane and just let him deteriorate until he is committed to a hospital?
Title: Re: Was Albert Einstein a hack
Post by: Baruch on September 05, 2020, 11:29:54 AM
Kibla is suffering from degenerative nonsense syndrome.  Could we lock him in a thread for the mentally insane and just let him deteriorate until he is committed to a hospital?

Like we used to do with gays?