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pr126 resident misanthrope

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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:30 pm Post subject: Man convicted over Shia flogging |
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Man convicted over Shia flogging
| Quote: | A devout Shia Muslim has been convicted of child cruelty after forcing two boys to beat themselves during a religious ceremony, in an unprecedented case.
The jury at Manchester Crown Court found 44-year-old Syed Mustafa Zaidi guilty of two counts of child cruelty.
The boys, aged 13 and 15, were forced to beat themselves with a zanjeer whip, with five curved blades. |
This is nothing but religious discrimination. Muslims are not allowed to practice their religion freely? _________________ “The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody had decided not to see.” - Ayn Rand |
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Moloth Fateless

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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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oh... i'm all disappointed.
i thought you meant this fucker got beaten:
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pr126 resident misanthrope

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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:14 am Post subject: |
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Why self-flagellation matters for Shias
| Quote: | | It strikes me that, though Zaidi's actions crossed the boundaries of what is acceptable, the danger of this case is that the ritual of self-flagellation itself is demonised. Those adults who engage in self-flagellation with knives, chains or blades, do so with a consciousness of the ceremonial nature of the act, keenly watched by onlookers, children and adults alike, who, though they have seen it all before, continue to be mesmerised by the sheer spectacle of it – the display. This excitement is, for most, mixed with an actual sense of profound identification with the suffering of Imam Hussain, grandson of the Prophet Muhammad. Islamic history tells us that Hussain, a venerated saint in Shism, stood up to the tyrant of the day, Yazid, 14 centuries ago in order to save Islam and humanity from despotism and oppression, and to make the ultimate point about justice. During the 10-day siege, Hussain's camp suffered unimaginable trials and tribulations, which, to many Muslims, not just Shias, has no equal. |
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| Quote: | | But it would be unjust if the Zaidi case were to poison the wider public's view of a ritual that commemorates a death that, like the Christian concept of the crucifixion of Christ, is seen as the epitome of sacrifice for humanity, and the triumph of good over evil. |
While some think that these practices are enriching our culture, some of us here in the UK regard it as [expletive deleted] insane, and has no place in public.
Sorry to object, but some of us have no wish to time travel back to the dark ages.
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RyanDzundza Sock Puppet

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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:19 am Post subject: |
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i was pretty shocked when i heard that some thought it was against there religious freedom for not allowing small children hurt eachother
knowing how much the labour government loves muslims they will probs let them carry on if they start to protest _________________
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jdopus Dirty Hun/Fenian

Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 223 Local time: 5:53 PM Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland

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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:39 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | But it would be unjust if the Zaidi case were to poison the wider public's view of a ritual that commemorates a death that, like the Christian concept of the crucifixion of Christ, is seen as the epitome of sacrifice for humanity, and the triumph of good over evil. |
I completely agree with this , in fact, I also believe that Christian children should be crucified, this would help them to commemorate the death that is the epitome of sacrifice for humanity and the triumph of good over evil.
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:44 am Post subject: |
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Rivers of blood by Enoch Powell _________________ “The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody had decided not to see.” - Ayn Rand |
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Moloth Fateless

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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:44 am Post subject: |
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gotta love a religion who's holy symbol is a... torture device. _________________ -=The Believer is Happy; the Skeptic is Wise=-
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