Will Islam Reform Like Christianity Did?

Started by pr126, April 14, 2016, 12:10:10 AM

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Baruch

One mistake of White group-think is that everything that happened in Europe is a paradigm for the rest of the world.  In some parts, events are the reverse of course.

Protestantism came about, because Crusaders saw what the synagogue and mosque were doing, and wanted something like it.  Shia as we have it today (Iranian), didn't exist before 1500 CE either.  Islam before Safavid Iran, wasn't theocratic, it was monarchial.  Theocracy in partnership with monarchy continued in Iran until 1979.  Imams don't have much power.  Ayatollahs do.  It was in Europe that we had a real competition, prior to 1500, between monarchy and theocracy.  Modernism came about at the same time as monarchy gained on theocracy, until the Church only had the Vatican (1870).  It was in the context of the defeat of that Vatican, that secular reform occurred at all ... even if there were rump national churches left behind on the rotting corpse of the Papacy.  So technically, the original Sunni version of Islam, is where the West ended up, but we started Shias, with a powerful clergy.  So where can Islam go to ... maybe full communism under an alternate universe where the Soviet Union conquers the Middle East, starting in Afghanistan.  Where the secular Muslim states backed by the Soviet Union, defeat the theocracies backed by the USA?
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