Author Topic: Xeroism - A Religion For Atheists  (Read 2357 times)

Online Shiranu

Re: Xeroism - A Religion For Atheists
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2016, 02:03:16 PM »
Just going to buck the trend and say there is nothing contradictory about being an atheist and religious; religious does not necessarily entail belief in a deity but rather just following the lifestyle guidelines of a religion. You can be culturally religious while not believing in the theology of it, and there is nothing illogical or wrong with that.
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Re: Xeroism - A Religion For Atheists
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2016, 04:22:57 PM »
Really?  I had not thought about that angle.  How would that work?  Seems to me it would simply be empty ritual.  But that could just be me.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Re: Xeroism - A Religion For Atheists
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2016, 04:26:18 PM »
there is nothing illogical or wrong with that.
That is correct, because the amount of women a guy can hang out with increases. I've schmoozed churches. I'm not ashamed of it.

Online Shiranu

Re: Xeroism - A Religion For Atheists
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2016, 04:27:59 PM »
Really?  I had not thought about that angle.  How would that work?  Seems to me it would simply be empty ritual.  But that could just be me.

I think it's all a perspective thing. What is or isn't "empty" ritual is completely subjective; they might find it brings them closer to their community, to their ancestors or heritage... or perhaps it gives them a sense of moral or "spiritual" satisfaction. Or it is just a routine they don't want to stop, even if the real reason to do it is something they don't believe in anymore.

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That is correct, because the amount of women a guy can hang out with increases. I've schmoozed churches. I'm not ashamed of it.
This guy knows what's up :P.
"Too curious flower, watching us pass, met death; Our hungry donkey." - Basho

"You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty." - Mahatma Gandhi

Offline Baruch

Re: Xeroism - A Religion For Atheists
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2016, 11:14:58 PM »
Just going to buck the trend and say there is nothing contradictory about being an atheist and religious; religious does not necessarily entail belief in a deity but rather just following the lifestyle guidelines of a religion. You can be culturally religious while not believing in the theology of it, and there is nothing illogical or wrong with that.

Most Jews are secular in just that fashion.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Xeroism - A Religion For Atheists
« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2016, 11:17:49 PM »
Everybody can become a minister. One or two people on the forum are already. I have considered it. If everyone was a minister in a religion and everybody applied for tax exemptions on that basis, the IRS might be forced into reexamining the free pass they give religion if everyone was avoiding taxes because of it.

http://www.themonastery.org/landing/get-ordained?gclid=CKi3zde-ic0CFQERaQodt5IPJQ

That is exactly why the Tang dynasty emperor, shut Buddhism and all other non-Chinese religions down, in 845 CE.  The monasteries had been granted tax exemption, and more and more peasants were becoming monks.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Xeroism - A Religion For Atheists
« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2016, 11:19:28 PM »
You schmooze a synagogue ... you debauch a church ;-)
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Re: Xeroism - A Religion For Atheists
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2016, 12:48:49 AM »
Everybody can become a minister. One or two people on the forum are already. I have considered it. If everyone was a minister in a religion and everybody applied for tax exemptions on that basis, the IRS might be forced into reexamining the free pass they give religion if everyone was avoiding taxes because of it.

http://www.themonastery.org/landing/get-ordained?gclid=CKi3zde-ic0CFQERaQodt5IPJQ
Aaaaaand now I'm a minister with an Honorary Doctor of Divinity degree. That's Dr. Hijiri, to y'all. :lol:

Re: Xeroism - A Religion For Atheists
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2016, 12:58:10 AM »
I suppose that the drive for immortality is incessant and will lead someday to some sort of AI version of it. I do not like the idea of that. I believe that death gives meaning to life, not in the least way by cutting an individual off from the power that he/she enjoyed while alive ... Eventually, all power would wind up in the possession of a very few minds! - as money is already in the possession of a very few hands ...

Anyway, there would be no need to create a religion around this sort of new nightmare - but, of course, being stupid people quite possibly would.
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Re: Xeroism - A Religion For Atheists
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2016, 08:59:22 AM »
Aaaaaand now I'm a minister with an Honorary Doctor of Divinity degree. That's Dr. Hijiri, to y'all. :lol:
Hey Doc--you can now communicate with God.  So, what is He up to these days?????
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Offline Hijiri Byakuren

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Re: Xeroism - A Religion For Atheists
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2016, 09:46:22 AM »
Hey Doc--you can now communicate with God.  So, what is He up to these days?????
Apparently he's just been jerking off this whole time. Who knew?


Fair and balanced (like Fox News).

Re: Xeroism - A Religion For Atheists
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2016, 10:18:09 AM »
You schmooze a synagogue ... you debauch a church ;-)

Lol. True. Were I of a less savory nature, I could advise how unscrupulous single men could get access to desperate women seeking husbands and take huge advantage of them. Mormonism is full of men who victimize women, and women who were raised to be victimized. And Christianity has their version of Mormon single's wards.

Re: Xeroism - A Religion For Atheists
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2016, 11:18:38 AM »
With all the bad stuff I've done at one time or another.............................I've never quite been able to lower myself to televangalism; though I wanted to.    :uchicken:

Offline Baruch

Re: Xeroism - A Religion For Atheists
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2016, 01:06:03 PM »
I suppose that the drive for immortality is incessant and will lead someday to some sort of AI version of it. I do not like the idea of that. I believe that death gives meaning to life, not in the least way by cutting an individual off from the power that he/she enjoyed while alive ... Eventually, all power would wind up in the possession of a very few minds! - as money is already in the possession of a very few hands ...

Anyway, there would be no need to create a religion around this sort of new nightmare - but, of course, being stupid people quite possibly would.

Brains in jars will spend their time betting quatloos on drill thralls in the arena.
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Offline trdsf

Re: Xeroism - A Religion For Atheists
« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2016, 01:23:41 PM »
You schmooze a synagogue ... you debauch a church ;-)
It would take a lot of effort to make the Catholic church more debauched than it already is... sorry, I have some morals.  :D
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