Atheists and Christians should unite to better combat their greatest threat

[pope-a-dope]

  America and Great Britain was allied with Joseph Stalin in ww2, despite the fact that they hated him, in order to bring down a greater threat and enemy they all shared.

All nonmuslims should be uniting against this greatest threat to freedom in our world.



The simple fact of the matter is that the majority of Congress and Senate and House of Representatives and the majority of European and American politicians are Christian, yet do we see them instituting laws that deprive Atheists of Liberty?

Is there a Christian nation on earth nowadays that has laws calling for the arrest or death of an atheist defending their views.

No, hence Christians are little threat to Atheists, at least when it comes to instituting laws that oppress them.  If Christians were all living their lives as Christ taught them to live , there would be no threat at all, because Christ preached non-violence and love for enemies.

Muhammed and the early Muslims were rapists, terrorists, looters, and mass murders.  Wouldn't it be good for the left and the right, Christians and atheist, and all lovers of freedom and women's rights, to unite against this great evil that is decreasing the quality of life everywhere it grows, and is responsible for almost all of the wars and terrorism throughout the present earth.

So, why is the left wing claiming to be for women's rights, and yet I have seen left-wingers defend Islam in debates wirh the right, and these were also left wing women the last time I saw such stupidity, and they're defending an institution that ruins the lives of hundreds of millions of women century after century, that destroys the lives of more women than all other misogynistic forces on earth combined. 

Every woman in Saudi Arabia lives on house arrest, hence every woman in Saudi Arabia's life is ruined.  The right wing sees this obvious hatred for liberty that Islam has and states that we should not let any Muslim become a politician (or in trumps case go so far as to not let them into the country.)

The leftists who are supposed to be for women's rights are often arguing the contrary (against a ban on Islamic politicians).  The greatest friend of women is the one who's willing to go out and attack the greatest enemy of women.  Find one other misogynistic institution that destroys 1% as many female lives as Islam, hence the right wing in many ways is a better friend of women than the left.

I recently made this YouTube on Islam.  It is worth watching.
https://youtu.be/RLDdNfTZF0w


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[Baruch]

The Right wing isn't in favor of rights, they are in favor of the Right wing, and fighting the Left wing.  The Left wing isn't in favor of rights, they are in favor of the Left wing, and fighting the Right wing.  If the Right wing is in favor of chocolate and the Left win is in favor of peanut butter ... they will oppose each other's snack of choice.  This is childish, it is time for people to grow up.

So no, the Left wing in Europe or USA is not going to help women in Saudi Arabia.  The idea that they are even interested, is mere propaganda.  Without propaganda one would see that the Right and Left wings are ... empty.

[drunkenshoe]

World hasn't seen more successful terrorists than the international policies-acts of the USA and its allies yet. 

[drunkenshoe]

The Right wing isn't in favor of rights, they are in favor of the Right wing, and fighting the Left wing.  The Left wing isn't in favor of rights, they are in favor of the Left wing, and fighting the Right wing.  If the Right wing is in favor of chocolate and the Left win is in favor of peanut butter ... they will oppose each other's snack of choice.  This is childish, it is time for people to grow up.

So no, the Left wing in Europe or USA is not going to help women in Saudi Arabia.  The idea that they are even interested, is mere propaganda.  Without propaganda one would see that the Right and Left wings are ... empty.

What is this Left Wing opposition in the USA you speak of?

John Oliver?

[Mike Cl]

 

The simple fact of the matter is that the majority of Congress and Senate and House of Representatives and the majority of European and American politicians are Christian, yet do we see them instituting laws that deprive Atheists of Liberty?

Really?  Are you sure of this 'fact'?  In many, if not most, states in this country atheists cannot hold public office.  Dig a little deeper I'm sure you'll find more.  It is always wise to really determine who you frienemy really is before you put too much power into their hands.

[Baruch]

Liberals everywhere, are legends in their own minds.  Certainly there are no Liberals in the US (with the exception of Bernie Sanders).  Bernie's followers aren't Liberals, they are Free Shit people, same as Trump's people ... they differ on who should get the Free Shit.

The US is the biggest terrorist of all (since 1990).  The Soviet Union was already moribund a year before Yeltsin.  After that point, it was no longer necessary for the US to even pretend it is Liberal ... rather than Anglo-American Israelitism policy.  The default political condition of any society is Conservative.  Liberalism only occurs during periods of "old regime" turnover.  The new king replaces the old king.  Everyone thought initially that Nero was going to be a wonderful ruler.

Mike - in almost all jurisdictions, nudists can't get elected either.  I am not sure the oppression of which you speak is systematic.  You are describing electing atheists as another "litmus test" ... like the next President has to be a Gay Hispanic Japanese-American ... or we aren't Liberal enough ;-)  There are plenty of other real oppressions of atheists, on a small scale, like Anglos wondering if a Hispanic American is a wetback or not.

[pope-a-dope]

Atheists are not holding public office because the majority of America is Christian and they're not voting for them.  That is not depriving atheists of rights, free speech, or imprisoning or executing them for proselytizing, as we see in Muslim countries.

  Therefore the fact that atheists aren't holding public office does not mean that there are any laws or policies that are taking away the rights or persecuting atheists.

America I don't see as terrorists because they are given direct orders not to kill innocent people, but sadly when people are using the innocent as shields , we kill innocent people, and when we try to achieve victory by destroying the enemy's targets , we kill innocent people in the process , but that's different than specifically giving orders to target innocent people. if there are ways to take out the terrorists and the tyrants without killing innocent people, we would do it and that's why I don't see us as terrorist.

Americans are given strict orders to try as hard as they can not to cause collateral damage and kill innocent people.

if we could have successfully instituted democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan, those countries would have a much higher quality of life, and by helping the Northern Alliance kick the Taliban out of Afghanistan ,we helped that country out tremendously , it's just it didn't last very long because it was too costly on America, and too many Afghani's and Iraqis don't want a country that is drama, violence, and tyranny-free.

America shouldn't be policing the globe, but sadly there were occasions it would have been a very good thing, like with the Rwanda genocide, America could have easily saved more than half a million lives if we had stepped in.

America's "terrorism" is simply that we see threats to the free world and crimes against humanity, tyranny, and barbaric policies, and we feel that we have to step in and stop it through military force.

Islamic terrorism is done because they hate freedom and they wish to enslave people, torment them, and force their beliefs and will down everybody's throat, and wish that their Sharia would dominate the globe.

The motives are what tell me America is not the greatest terrorist in the world. We want people to not have to live lives enslaved , tormented, terrorized, and stripped of all rights.  That is why we get involved in all the conflicts America has gotten involved in in my lifetime. 

So I love America and the world would be much worse and likely would have lost World War 2 or the globe would have been dominated by communism without America's crucial help

Thank God the free world is putting sick regimes in check.

[drunkenshoe]

[Nonsensei]

World hasn't seen more successful terrorists than the international policies-acts of the USA and its allies yet. 

The world has never seen worse eh? Fascinating.

[Jack89]

I was thinking of SJWs when you mentioned greatest threat.

[CloneKai]

if we could have successfully instituted democracy in Iraq and Afghanistan, those countries would have a much higher quality of life, and by helping the Northern Alliance kick the Taliban out of Afghanistan ,we helped that country out tremendously , it's just it didn't last very long because it was too costly on America, and too many Afghani's and Iraqis don't want a country that is drama, violence, and tyranny-free.

if you successfully put democracy there, they will implement which ever flavor of sharia they like. and start killing the infidels.

if American are so much for freedom, why are saudia royalties still alive.   

[Baruch]

Some people can't see the hypocrisy of the government foreign policy ... because they are chauvinist.  I expect that as much of Pakistanis as of Americans.  And there are still Americans who don't see the humor in Team America World Police satire.

If you love your home country, good for you ... Germans were the same in WW II, and Russians during the Cold War.  They felt just as justified in exterminating Poles and Englishmen as Americans might have felt toward Afghans and Iraqis.

It is a serious foreign policy contradiction, if the US ignores threats, then we are guilty of allowing evil to rise, but if we fight threats, then we are guilty of being the evil.  Everything changed in 1945 ... with nukes and long range delivery systems.  WW II couldn't happen today ... advanced technology won't allow it.

[doorknob]

I do not see muslims as a greatest threat. This is all propaganda. It depends on the muslim really. But muslims could never over take america. We have too much technology and the american citizens would never stand for it.

[Baruch]

But why do some people want you to be afraid, and how are they going to profit by it?  This is so much like the 1930s, but with no Churchill or FDR to explain it to us.

[AllPurposeAtheist]

We need to unite to fight the boogieman. It's true! Just look under your bed at night.  Ever wonder why you no longer get a nickel when you lose a tooth?  The boogieman is waging war against the tooth fairy and keeps stealing YOUR nickel!