Alternative medicine

[PickelledEggs]

I actually yelled at my mom the last time I was really sick.

I woke up gasping for air because my throat was so sore that it was practically swollen shut. Could have possibly suffocated in my sleep. I asked my mom to schedule a doctor's appointment while I rested (it was too early still for any office to be open that morning when this happened)

What did she do? Scheduled me with the chiropractor. Fucking moron. She has gone completely off the deep end with this alternative medicine crap. My throat is near swollen shut from a cold and infection....  But a back alignment will fix it. (that was sarcasm) Luckily the Care Center was open and didn't require an appointment.

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[drunkenshoe]

OK. I think people are confusing what self hypnosis is and what they do in the shows or movies making (!) people quack.

Self hypnosis is just an ordinary meditation method for relaxing and emptying your mind. Just like other ones. It's very ancient. It has nothing to do with religion or thinking that you are going to get healed by 'magic'.

The idea is closing your eyes and imagining yourself in relaxing environment like a seaside, a forest or whatever makes you feel relaxed. Trying to think about nothing to rest. Suggest yourself to get relaxed.

You don't really think I would defend 'magic' do you? What's wrong with meditation?

[drunkenshoe]

I don't know anything about chiropractors, but I wouldn't dare to try that.

[Sal1981]

If it's "alternative" medicine and it works and has been verified to do so, it's not alternative medicine anymore, just medicine.

[Baruch]

If it's "alternative" medicine and it works and has been verified to do so, it's not alternative medicine anymore, just medicine.

Casuistry ... word smithing.  Tylenol is alternative to aspirin too.

[Baruch]

I actually yelled at my mom the last time I was really sick.

I woke up gasping for air because my throat was so sore that it was practically swollen shut. Could have possibly suffocated in my sleep. I asked my mom to schedule a doctor's appointment while I rested (it was too early still for any office to be open that morning when this happened)

What did she do? Scheduled me with the chiropractor. Fucking moron. She has gone completely off the deep end with this alternative medicine crap. My throat is near swollen shut from a cold and infection....  But a back alignment will fix it. (that was sarcasm) Luckily the Care Center was open and didn't require an appointment.

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That is really serious.  Got Strep?  Glad you got an effective remedy.  Fortunately using antibiotics is actually useful ... though getting less so over time, as we bread Darwinian bugs.

[SGOS]

I'll agree that many herbs in their natural form can have some efficacy on a host of ailments. But two summers ago my husband's aunt tried her hardest to convince my husband that my step-daughter doesn't have autism, she just has a misdiagnosed B-12 deficiency and giving her shots would help her overcome her developmental disabilities. Uh huh, go fuck yourself lady. 

The problem with herbal treatment isn't that no herb can provide a useful benefit.  Of course some do.  But the herbal industry is unregulated.  It's a playground for conmen claiming mysterious qualities for anything imaginable.  Walk through the display isles of herbal remedies, and you are confronted with an array of herbs, most of them containing secret ingredients unknown to modern medical science, but well know for millennia by elderly Asian women living in smoky huts, who spend their time reanimating the near dead.  It all makes so much sense when you think about it.

[Hydra009]

Yes. Chiropractic "care" is a load of shit. I've heard from just about every one I've went to that they "heal you" from realigning the Chakras...  Or some bullshit like that.

The part that really angers me about chiropractics is that they claim to be able to deal with childhood asthma (as someone with pretty bad childhood asthma, that's a hell of a promise).  But there's exactly zero evidence backing up this claim.  It's a lie.  And anyone who lies to little kids like that is a villain in my book.

[PickelledEggs]

The part that really angers me about chiropractics is that they claim to be able to deal with childhood asthma (as someone with pretty bad childhood asthma, that's a hell of a promise).  But there's exactly zero evidence backing up this claim.  It's a lie.  And anyone who lies to little kids like that is a villain in my book.

Yes. I'm fully aware of that.

In fact, one chiropractor that I used to go to turned out to be a huge anti-vaxxer. Had a letter template posted on her front desk ready to copy on her copy machine for any parent that had a kid in school.
Disgusting. She was a shit chiropractor too. Every time I went there, I felt like I was hit by a truck. This other chiropractor I occasionally go to is a lot better. I've had very bad back pain that he relieved. He says there are other things wrong like "there's something off with the kidney. I corrected it..." and similar bullshit, but I'm willing to endure that load of crap if my back feels better.

[PickelledEggs]

I've seen chiropractors claim they cure just about everything. Even cancer. It's bullshit. Just bullshit. And it's saddening that people believe them.

[TomFoolery]

I've seen chiropractors claim they cure just about everything. Even cancer. It's bullshit. Just bullshit. And it's saddening that people believe them.

My cousin used to work for one that offered all kind of other services besides chiropractic medicine and I always got the impression it was more of a spa than a medical practice. She did the detox foot pads and would test people for heavy toxins (my cousin said she took urine samples but didn't have a lab?).

[Mermaid]

My sister took my nephew to a chiro when he was little for chronic ear infections. The chiro told her that her son had clogged "eustationary tubes". I swear i don't know why she didn't just walk the hell out right then.

[SGOS]

A friend of mine worked at some clinic in Panama run by a shark.  It specialized in some kind of starvation therapy.  He had photos of a normal looking guy who checked in for 6 months, at which time his "after" photo reveled a guy who looked like an inmate from a concentration camp.  He was standing mostly naked and appeared to be held up by attendants for the photo.  I remarked that it seemed like a scam.  My friend quickly agreed and confided that the owner was wanted in the US for medical fraud.  The guy in the photo was a regular that would check in every two years or so and go through the cleansing process.

[Baruch]

But scientific medicine isn't subject to marketing?  But I do know about quack medicine.  My father's father used to make money off of it, providing radio advertising to quack doctors.  Totally fake, but also ahead of its time ... and like all medicine, very lucrative.  Two quack doctors were his business partners (grand-dad also had on-air fortune telling ... it was like the county faire, but with out the kiddie rides).  One of the quack doctors did the very first on-air porn ... he was really out-there compared to the other quack ;-))

So yes, caveat emptor ... like any American should know.  Buy nothing if you can ... the whole economy is a sham.  The President is the ring master (three rings, three branches of government).  That people get that alternative medicine is often a sham ... is reasonable.  But y'alls gullibility in your middle class view of reality ... is touchin'.

[Johan]

But scientific medicine isn't subject to marketing? 

Marketing? Sure. However the makers of regulated products are subject to heavy fines if they make any kind of label claim or advertising claim about their product which they cannot back up with FDA verified independent third party testing. Unregulated products are not subject to the same fines nor are they required to do any third party testing and are therefore free to make virtually any  claims they like on label and in advertising. The makers of regulated products are most certainly able to utilize marketing in order to increase sales. But to suggest that we're dealing with a level playing field between the two, as your flippant comment about how gullible people are seems to do, is perhaps a bit ignorant IMO.