Headteacher mocked for claiming evolution is not a fact

Started by josephpalazzo, February 03, 2016, 02:53:45 PM

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Baruch

Its a parochial school.  She would be fired if she didn't believe in the Bible.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Hydra009

QuoteWilkinson wrote: “Evolution is not a fact. That’s why it’s called a theory! There’s more evidence that the Bible is true.”
It's interesting how they always confuse evolution with atheism.  In effect, they're trying to prove their (questionable) religious beliefs true by attacking pretty solid science.  It's almost comical.  Strike that.  It's very comical.

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PickelledEggs

Quote from: Hydra009 on February 03, 2016, 10:45:11 PM
It's interesting how they always confuse evolution with atheism.  In effect, they're trying to prove their (questionable) religious beliefs true by attacking pretty solid science.  It's almost comical.  Strike that.  It's very comical.
I think it's not only very comical, but also pretty great. The fact that they are making sure they make it clear that a belief in the bible and a belief in evolution do not mix and are contradictory, is a very good point in the favor of nonbelievers. Making that distinction causes people to think. "Why is it contradictory to believe both the bible and evolution?" It gets them asking questions that shatter dogmatic faith.

Mr.Obvious

Funny thing is, evolution is not 'a fact' but is indeed 'a theory'. Theories are higher on The scientific ladder after all.
So really, she's actually right about that bit, but for all The wrong reasons.
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PickelledEggs

Quote from: Mr.Obvious on February 04, 2016, 02:26:18 AM
Funny thing is, evolution is not 'a fact' but is indeed 'a theory'. Theories are higher on The scientific ladder after all.
So really, she's actually right about that bit, but for all The wrong reasons.
This is true.
I can bet that she... And people like her do not know what a theory is though, as well as the overwhelming amount of evidence required to come to the title of "theory"

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josephpalazzo

Quote from: Mr.Obvious on February 04, 2016, 02:26:18 AM
Funny thing is, evolution is not 'a fact' but is indeed 'a theory'. Theories are higher on The scientific ladder after all.
So really, she's actually right about that bit, but for all The wrong reasons.

Clarification: there are the "facts" of evolution - a gazillion of fossils as evidence - and there is the "theory" of evolution that explains those facts.


Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: Hydra009 on February 03, 2016, 10:45:11 PM
It's interesting how they always confuse evolution with atheism.  In effect, they're trying to prove their (questionable) religious beliefs true by attacking pretty solid science.  It's almost comical.  Strike that.  It's very comical.
They need everyone to have a "faith", and claim that "evolution" is our faith. "I'm a drunk, so you must drink too much too!"
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: josephpalazzo on February 04, 2016, 05:16:02 AM
Clarification: there are the "facts" of evolution - a gazillion of fossils as evidence - and there is the "theory" of evolution that explains those facts.
This. Evolution happens. The Theory of Evolution tries to explain how it happens.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Daniel2021

Quote from: josephpalazzo on February 04, 2016, 05:16:02 AM
Clarification: there are the "facts" of evolution - a gazillion of fossils as evidence - and there is the "theory" of evolution that explains those facts.

So the "facts"/evidence of evolution = a gazillion fossils.  Then....

The "theory" of evolution explains those gazillion fossils.  Are you saying the "theory" of evolution explains Permineralization - Petrification?  Isn't that the process of fossilization?

What is the "Scientific Theory" of evolution....?

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kilodelta

Headteacher, eh? I guess they're really serious about oral sex education over there...
Faith: pretending to know things you don't know

Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: kilodelta on February 23, 2016, 01:39:04 PM
Headteacher, eh? I guess they're really serious about oral sex education over there...
The Catholic Church totally misunderstood the "Head Start" program.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Hydra009

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Quote from: Daniel2021 on February 23, 2016, 01:29:00 PM
So the "facts"/evidence of evolution = a gazillion fossils.  Then....

The "theory" of evolution explains those gazillion fossils.  Are you saying the "theory" of evolution explains Permineralization - Petrification?  Isn't that the process of fossilization?
I really don't think so and I'm having a hard time understanding where you got the impression that evolution explains the process of fossilization, because no one claimed or even implied that at all.  But to answer your question, one of the facts that the theory of evolution attempts to explain is that we have fossils of extinct species that bear a striking resemblance to living species.  Evolution provides a model that matches these findings and makes predictions about what sorts of species we'll find in the fossil record.  For example, we won't find rabbit skeletons in precambrian strata.  There have been many discoveries that could have falsified evolution and sent biologists back to the drawing board - DNA sequencing of fossils, for example.  To date, the theory of evolution held up pretty well with these new discoveries.

QuoteWhat is the "Scientific Theory" of evolution....?
Descent with modification.  That site covers the basics pretty well.