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Started by stromboli, February 02, 2016, 09:12:11 AM

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drunkenshoe

What exactly happened here? What is this wave of rape and sexual crime that has been going on in schools threatening everyone? Does that make sense to you that in an 80 million country in the Europe, a country has been a home to millions of muslim migrants for decades, but just after they got 35 000 syrian refugees running away from war, there breaks out sexual assualt wave commited by 'migrants' THREATENING EVERYONE?

Those are concerned parents that has been turned into freaking morons because what they are reading in media. They are not discussing that something happened and carried to police. They are there because of the media fuel. The mayor says there is nothing extra going on and asks that if they thought this is not happening in German schools. And a moron says that 'migrants' -he means refugees by the way- are not prosecuted for their crimes in Germany. How stupid are you to think that in Germany a group of people, 'migrants' no less are treated above the law and not get a sentence?!

What is he going to tell that to a group full of morons that thinks muslim refugees are given green card to rape? How stupid can you get?!

This is what happens when people do not take responsibility of their actions in the media. What the fuck did they think this is, a fucking game?

People are going to die because of this bullshit. FOR NOTHING. And everybody is going to blame each other when it is too late.
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drunkenshoe

#16
People who are not able to define

-the mass shootings in their country -how many in just 1 year again?-  as a CRISIS, but call it something almost traditional which mentally ill people kill stupid people,

-college rape epidemic as a sexxual assault CRISIS, blaming their country's Justice Department to promote a campaign against men,

-the blatant domestic terrorism going on in their country as domestic terrorism, (what did you think Oregon was?)

losing their heads by a media campaign launched up by a few companies -across the ocean- which own the 90 % of media on the planet AND do not even get curious -fuck scepticism at this point of willful stupidity- 'what the fuck is going on'.

Somebody smacks your head, you smash it on the wall. Don't criticise the monstrous military budget, guys. Really don't. Without that there ain't no shit for ya. It makes me think that 'some people up there' really trying hard for you. 
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Baruch

I understand that Germany has a misogyny problem, aside from immigrants.  Could they and other Europeans be in denial?  I only thought stupid shit and denialism happened in the US (sarc).

The propaganda flows, just like Goebbels said it would.  The bad lessons of the 1930s aren't forgotten.  Who benefits from demonizing immigrants, particularly when they are darker complexioned?  Oh, only the US is racist (sarc).
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drunkenshoe

#18
It's not just something about Germany. Europe is not different than anywhere else on misogyny or misandry or general gender issues. Rape cases, victims and perpetrators treated by the same bullshit rules as anywhere else. The individual's perspective/perception about his own culture is based on his identity. Westerners define themselves as in contrast with a primitive culture which is supposedly their opposite. 

Germany is the main target, because they openly supported refugees, they lead the economy and their migrant plan for next decades is stronger and bigger than any other continental EU countries. (France has a very different structure)

However, refugee, asylum sekeer and migrant are very different things. A small group of ALL those refugees EU takes will be migrants. You cannot just get to be a migrant, because you are a refugee. 

Now, you want to pull something down and you need to strike back. How do you do that? Which angle do you choose? Economy? Unemployment? But none of these have a sensational value that can be provoked in a few news piece, catch the eye of a parent or ordinary people and frighten them. You need something that would spark a vicious fight and at the same time something that will play right into the extreme contrasts that has been advertised for more than decade now. Something that will make pople really uncomfortable and angry. Sexual assault. Nothing is better. There you go. Jack pot.

I don't mean this is a conspiracy theory. NO, it is not. Nor I am claiming that nothing is going on. This is so simple, you do not need any tangled up webs and conspiracies. This is how people work. They read/watch one thing in news and that's whole their idea about something is based on. You give them a hundred, it doesn't matter what is really going on. The name of it is enough. There is no going back.

With a media campaign this massive, you can be damn sure something else is going on behind the curtains when everybody is busy with a sexual assault epidemic going on streets and somebody is benefitting and profitting from their fear and panic. You can do with everything when people are in fear and panic.







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PopeyesPappy

Today in Sweden 1 in 4 women can expect to be raped in her lifetime. Based on current trends that number is probably going to increase due mainly to immigration. The number of reported rapes in Sweden jumped from 9.6 per 100,000 of population (already high by western standards) in 2003 to 53.1 per 100,000 in 2013. That is a 553% increase. The Swedish government does not keep statistics on ethnicity or religion for this kind of thing, but according to rape advocacy groups 77.6% of rapes in Sweden are committed by migrant men. A demographic that currently makes up about 2% of the population. From what I've read Sweden received about 200,000 refugees in 2015. If a quarter of them are adult males between 15 and 54 (the age group that commits the most rapes) and the statistics hold true in 2016 you can expect the rape rate in Sweden to increase to 63.4 per 100,000 of population due to the recent influx of migrants. That's a further increase of about 19.4% above the 2013 rate. It translate to 1,030 more rapes committed by migrants in addition to the 4,120 they were responsible for in 2013.
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drunkenshoe

#20
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on February 08, 2016, 08:46:22 AM
Today in Sweden 1 in 4 women can expect to be raped in her lifetime. Based on current trends that number is probably going to increase due mainly to immigration. The number of reported rapes in Sweden jumped from 9.6 per 100,000 of population (already high by western standards) in 2003 to 53.1 per 100,000 in 2013. That is a 553% increase. The Swedish government does not keep statistics on ethnicity or religion for this kind of thing, but according to rape advocacy groups 77.6% of rapes in Sweden are committed by migrant men. A demographic that currently makes up about 2% of the population. From what I've read Sweden received about 200,000 refugees in 2015. If a quarter of them are adult males between 15 and 54 (the age group that commits the most rapes) and the statistics hold true in 2016 you can expect the rape rate in Sweden to increase to 63.4 per 100,000 of population due to the recent influx of migrants. That's a further increase of about 19.4% above the 2013 rate. It translate to 1,030 more rapes committed by migrants in addition to the 4,120 they were responsible for in 2013.

NO, they don't and NO, it didn't. Swedish sexual assualt laws have been changed to file every sexual assault case as a seperate case per the sexual crime. This is actually an old story, but yeah this is what I am talking about when I say how people work.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-19592372
QuoteIs it true? Yes. The Swedish police recorded the highest number of offences - about 63 per 100,000 inhabitants - of any force in Europe, in 2010. The second-highest in the world.
This was three times higher than the number of cases in the same year in Sweden's next-door neighbour, Norway, and twice the rate in the United States and the UK. It was more than 30 times the number in India, which recorded about two offences per 100,000 people.
On the face of it, it would seem Sweden is a much more dangerous place than these other countries.


But that is a misconception, according to Klara Selin, a sociologist at the National Council for Crime Prevention in Stockholm. She says you cannot compare countries' records, because police procedures and legal definitions vary widely.
"In Sweden there has been this ambition explicitly to record every case of sexual violence separately, to make it visible in the statistics," she says.
"So, for instance, when a woman comes to the police and she says my husband or my fiance raped me almost every day during the last year, the police have to record each of these events, which might be more than 300 events. In many other countries it would just be one record - one victim, one type of crime, one record."

The thing is, the number of reported rapes has been going up in Sweden - it's almost trebled in just the last seven years. In 2003, about 2,200 offences were reported by the police, compared to nearly 6,000 in 2010.


So something's going on.
But Klara Selin says the statistics don't represent a major crime epidemic, rather a shift in attitudes. The public debate about this sort of crime in Sweden over the past two decades has had the effect of raising awareness, she says, and encouraging women to go to the police if they have been attacked.
The police have also made efforts to improve their handling of cases, she suggests, though she doesn't deny that there has been some real increase in the number of attacks taking place - a concern also outlined in an Amnesty International report in 2010.
"There might also be some increase in actual crime because of societal changes. Due to the internet, for example, it's much easier these days to meet somebody, just the same evening if you want to. Also, alcohol consumption has increased quite a lot during this period.
"But the major explanation is partly that people go to the police more often, but also the fact that in 2005 there has been reform in the sex crime legislation, which made the legal definition of rape much wider than before."



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drunkenshoe

#21
There is this excerpt translated to English from Oslo Police department:

http://tr.scribd.com/doc/76695373/Excerpt-From-Oslo-Police-District-Report-on-Rape

QuoteIt was previously mentioned that the total number of cases with a reported perpetrator is 152, comprising131 different persons. A number of persons are thus reported as perpetrators in connection with multiplerapes. In the following figure the continental background is shown only for unique perpetrators (each perpetrator is only counted once, irrespective of the number of reports in which this individual issuspected or was seen). The proportion of perpetrators (unique persons) of Norwegian national background is the group whose representation increases the most, comprising 38.2% of perpetrators.Together this brings the proportion of perpetrators with a European continental background to a total of 51.9%. The proportion with an Asian background falls to 11.5%, but otherwise the continental background profile is stable. Africa was 28.5%, while they made up 30.5% in the distribution of casesshown previously. This may be explained by the fact that a number of unique perpetrators of an African background were reported for more than one rape in the course of the year.

If you distribute unique perpetrators by nationality, the largest groups originate in Norway (50), Iraq (8),Pakistan (9), Lithuania (7), Morocco (6), Somalia, Afghanistan and Sweden (5), Turkey and Gambia (4).When you break down the rape reports by type of rape and identified suspect/person seen's country of origin, you come closer to a more nuanced picture of the relationship between rape and ethnicity. Crudegeneralizations that have given the impression that rapists are only foreigners â€" and primarily Muslims â€" are shown to be inadequate and erroneous. Below it can be seen that the largest group (11.8%) of  perpetrators among all 152 known suspects/persons seen were Norwegian and reported for relationshiprape. This may to a certain extent be attributed to the fact that perpetrators in relationship rapes are moreoften identified individuals than those who are reported in other types of rape. But the next largest groupsalso comprise persons with a Norwegian background; 10% were Norwegians reported for party-relatedviolations, 9.2% were Norwegians reported for vulnerability rapes. Significant groups among knownsuspects/persons seen are also 7.9% of European origin and were reported for party-related rape. These arefollowed by 7.9% of Middle-Eastern origin reported for relationship rapes.

The ethnic profile for all types of rape except assault rape is dominated by persons of Norwegian origin, but is otherwise varied. If citizenship had been used as a background variable the proportion of  Norwegians would have been even higher. For party-related rape, in addition to the Norwegian 32.7%,there is a large proportion with another European background (24.5%). Together with the Norwegians,Europeans make up more than half of the known perpetrators. Perpetrators from the Middle-East, who areover-represented among those reported for assault rape, are under-represented in this party-related type of rape.

It must be emphasized once more that the marked over-representation of individuals from a minority background in connectionwith several types of rape cannot be interpreted as a result of alien culture being a causal explanation for rape. The reports apply to only a few of the rapes that occur, and the inclination to report rape is different for perpetrators of Norwegian origin than it is for those of a different country of origin. Furthermore thereis thorough quantitative research to confirm that statistical differences in criminal behavior between ethnic groups disappear when the figures are controlled for the socio-economic circumstances in which theindividuals concerned have grown up in Norway.

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drunkenshoe

#22
So yes, Norway has a rape problem. It's relationship rape among Norwegian man.

Overall there is nothing, but nothing on some sexual assault or rape epidemic of a muslim minority origin other than the usual. There is fucking media, which is more powerful and destructive than anything as you can see.
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PopeyesPappy

Quote from: drunkenshoe on February 08, 2016, 09:19:30 AM
NO, they don't and NO, it didn't. Swedish sexual assualt laws have been changed to file every sexual assault case as a seperate case per the sexual crime. This is actually an old story, but yeah this is what I am talking about when I say how people work.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-19592372

So you can account for some of the increase through increased/changed reporting. I doubt if changes the fact that only about 1 in 3 rapes are reported to begin with. How many of the reported cases were women reporting they had been raped everyday for the past year by their husband? Did that actually happen, or is it just an example of how the numbers could get skewed? How does that change 77% of reported cases are committed by a demographic that makes up 2% of the population? Worldwide a little more than half of reported rapes are committed by people unknown to the victim. Is Sweden an exception to this statistic? If not then there was still at least a 275% increase in sexual assaults that can't be accounted for by "my husband raped me every day for the past year."

And yes, I understand that something less than 2% of that 2% of the population is responsible for these additional acts, but how does increased reporting change the fact that adding another 50,000 immigrant men to the population will probably result in an additional 1000 reported rapes this year alone? How does any of what you wrote change the fact that a male refugee in Sweden is 20 times more likely to commit a violent sexual act against a woman than a male of Swedish decent?

None of this means that I think western countries should stop accepting Muslim refugees from the conflict in Syria and Iraq. Even Kurds from Turkey for that matter. What it does mean though is before being accepted into a country they need to agree to abide by the laws of their new home. Laws that may conflict with Sharia law. Laws that say women are equals not property. Laws that say their adult daughters and even their wives are free to go where they want when they want, wear what they please, and even have sex with others should they desire. If they can't agree to these things they shouldn't be allowed to stay. If they break these laws they should expect to go to jail and/or be deported. I don't think it is too much to ask for them to be told they must conform to new rules as opposed to adjusting the rules to suit them.



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PopeyesPappy

Quote from: drunkenshoe on February 08, 2016, 09:38:48 AM
So yes, Norway has a rape problem. It's relationship rape among Norwegian man.

Overall there is nothing, but nothing on some sexual assault or rape epidemic of a muslim minority origin other than the usual. There is fucking media, which is more powerful and destructive than anything as you can see.

This is where we disagree on the usefulness on the application of statistics to crime, Shoe. Even though the majority of reported crimes may be committed by the majority demographic; The minority demographic is committing the same crimes at a higher individual rate. This doesn't mean that the crimes committed by the majority demographic aren't a problem. It does mean that an individual from the minority is statistically more likely to commit the crime though. While you may not find that significant I do. I do because it would be more effective way to reduce crime by concentrating on changing the behaviors of the minority groups that lead to higher crime rates. That doesn't mean efforts shouldn't be made in changing the behaviors of the majority demographic, but in most cases any efforts in that direction will apply across the entire population. Special attention is required to make changes within the minority demographic in order to bring their crime rates back down to the norm for the population as a whole.
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stromboli

Quote from: PopeyesPappy on February 08, 2016, 11:46:57 AM
This is where we disagree on the usefulness on the application of statistics to crime, Shoe. Even though the majority of reported crimes may be committed by the majority demographic; The minority demographic is committing the same crimes at a higher individual rate. This doesn't mean that the crimes committed by the majority demographic aren't a problem. It does mean that an individual from the minority is statistically more likely to commit the crime though. While you may not find that significant I do. I do because it would be more effective way to reduce crime by concentrating on changing the behaviors of the minority groups that lead to higher crime rates. That doesn't mean efforts shouldn't be made in changing the behaviors of the majority demographic, but in most cases any efforts in that direction will apply across the entire population. Special attention is required to make changes within the minority demographic in order to bring their crime rates back down to the norm for the population as a whole.

To some extent you can make the case that the influx of migrants is viewed suspiciously and becomes a focus for resentment, and any change in statistics is falsely applied as a default. But to see a high number shift statistically after a given period when the only significant change is the influx of migrants from a specific group, it is not difficult to draw the conclusion that said migrant group is responsible. And in the case of women being harassed for their dress or heckled by that group specifically is more than enough reason to view that group with suspicion and take steps to prevent it.

Baruch

Based on ... will you follow the laws of this country ... the majority of Americans would be denied citizenship.  It isn't just an immigrant problem.  Most Americans would fail the knowledge test that new citizens go thru.

And we have the same statistical problems in the US ... the majority of certain kinds of crime are done by young African-American men.  Shall we, on that basis alone (not a conviction) deport all of them?
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drunkenshoe

#27
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on February 08, 2016, 11:33:09 AM
So you can account for some of the increase through increased/changed reporting. I doubt if changes the fact that only about 1 in 3 rapes are reported to begin with.  How many of the reported cases were women reporting they had been raped everyday for the past year by their husband? Did that actually happen, or is it just an example of how the numbers could get skewed? How does that change 77% of reported cases are committed by a demographic that makes up 2% of the population? Worldwide a little more than half of reported rapes are committed by people unknown to the victim. Is Sweden an exception to this statistic? If not then there was still at least a 275% increase in sexual assaults that can't be accounted for by "my husband raped me every day for the past year."

I posted an article about the reporting system. I copied and pasted the relevant part so it would be easier for you to read. You took the example given in the article, turned into STRAWMAN and threw back to me. She could have said 3 or 50 or 1000. She said 300. Random number. Completely irrelevant the statistics of rape you posted.

The subject is NOT rape statistics. It's the RAPE EPÄ°DEMIC that threatens everyone and how 1 in 4 women will be raped  bullshit. Of course there is rape everywhere.

The Swedish rape epidemic links on the internet are various. The original one spread by media (Pat Condell) reported % 300 increase just in 2012. Now the same report is much higher and rising.

If you read the links I posted, you would see that they do not claim that migrants don't rape or commit sexual assault BUT THAT THEY ARE IN THE NORMAL RANGE, higher or not.

QuoteAnd yes, I understand that something less than 2% of that 2% of the population is responsible for these additional acts, but how does increased reporting change the fact that adding another 50,000 immigrant men to the population will probably result in an additional 1000 reported rapes this year alone? How does any of what you wrote change the fact that a male refugee in Sweden is 20 times more likely to commit a violent sexual act against a woman than a male of Swedish decent?

The discussion is something far more about a general increase in rape. It is the report that 1 in every 4 women is expected to be raped in a estimated 5 million female population, the explanation is that the recent refugee intake.

1. Sweden rape report was made BEFORE the Refugee Crisis and the recent intake of 50 000 refugees.

2. Sweden was the RAPE CAPITAL of the Europe in 1989-1996 report. In fact the percentage of minority rape was HIGHER in 1996 and fell down considerably.

What didn't exist in 1996:

a. It was before  9/11.

b. Western policy regarding muslim communities countries to support the invasion of Afghanistan and Irak; atrocities and destruction didn't exist.

c. The Western media didn't belong to a few giant companies, but many other ones. It wasn't profitable or beneficial.

d. It wasn't regarded as an epidemic, because it is not. And still is not.

3. Sweden has an exceptional place on rape statistic:

a. Willingness to report. Sweden is NOT continental Europe, UK or US. It has the highest rape report on th eplanet also the number one country in gender eqaulity.

b. Definition of Rape. Definition of rape is very broad. Which is very good. Example. (This is an example) Sweden is the only country a man could be prosecuted for rape after commiting digital penetration.

c. Reporting system. Since 2005. First time after 9/11 when this subject came up. Every sexual assault act is recorded  AS ONE CASE. You get this right? There is no woman talking about his husband.

d. While the willingness of reporting rape is much higher, there is also another factor taken officially into account that plays in to minority rape statistic and it is the fact that it is always eaiser for people to REPORT a perpetrator from an alien culture than a one from their own; circle of friends, colleagues, work...etc. It was in that report.

e. So there is no fucking rape epidemic threatening everyoen that guarantees th erap eof 1 in every 4 women in Sweden. The increase in crimes and sexual crimes are evaluated as in the normal range. And yes they do mak eup for the media bullshit. Because it is ridiculous to think that while 1 in every 4 women is in danger to be raped by one minoirty, there is no state of emergency declared.


While other Western countries play with his as a poitical tool or advertise high rape statistic as Sweden  in trouble with muslim minorities, they are in fact VERY PROUD of it. And they SHOULD BE.

QuoteLegislation[edit]
The first statutory law against rape in Sweden dates back to 13th century. It was considered a serious crime, punishable by death until 1779.[2] The current Swedish Penal Code was adopted in 1962 and enacted on 1 January 1965.[22] A long-standing tradition of gender equality policy and legislation, as well as an established feminist movement, have led to several legislative changes and amendments, greatly expanding the definition of rape.[3][23] For example, in 1965 Sweden was one of the first countries in the world to criminalise marital rape.[23] Homosexual acts and gender neutrality was first introduced in 1984,[24] and sex with someone by improperly exploiting them while they are unconscious (e.g. due to intoxication or sleep) was included in the definition of rape in 2005.[4]

This excerpt is an unofficial translation, provided by the Ministry of Justice, of the 2014 legal definition of rape:

A person who by assault or other violence or by threat of a criminal act forces another person to have sexual intercourse or to undertake or endure another sexual act that, in view of the seriousness of the violation, is comparable to sexual intercourse, shall be sentenced for rape to imprisonment for at least two and at most six years.

This also applies if a person engages with another person in sexual intercourse or in a sexual act which under the first paragraph is comparable to sexual intercourse by improperly exploiting that the person, due to unconsciousness, sleep, serious fear, intoxication or other drug influence, illness, physical injury or mental disturbance, or otherwise in view of the circumstances, is in a particularly vulnerable situation.
[25]

In Sweden, case law also plays an important role in setting precedent on the application of the legislation. For example, a 2008 ruling by the Supreme Court decided that digital penetration of the vagina, on a woman who is intoxicated or sleeping, shall be regarded as an sexual act comparable to sexual intercourse, and is therefore an act of rape.[26][27]

Swedish rape statistics[edit]
Ever since the collation of crime statistics was initiated by the Council of Europe, Sweden has had the highest number of registered rape offences in Europe by a considerable extent. In 1996, Sweden registered almost three times the average number of rape offences registered in 35 European countries. However, this does not necessarily mean rape is three times as likely to occur as in the rest of Europe, since cross-national comparisons of crime levels based on official crime statistics are problematic, due to a number of factors described below.[11][28][29][30]

There are three types of factors that determine the outcome of crime statistics: statistical factors, legal factors, and substantive factors.[11][28][29] The combined effect of these "make it safe to contend that the Swedish rape statistics constitute an 'over-reporting' relative to the European average", according to a study by Hanns von Hofer, Professor of Criminology at Stockholm University, published by The European Journal on Criminal Policy and Research.[11]

Statistical factors[edit]
Unlike the majority of countries in Europe, crime data in Sweden are collected when the offence in question is first reported, at which point the classification may be unclear. In Sweden, once an act has been registered as rape, it retains this classification in the published crime statistics, even if later investigations indicate that no crime can be proven or if the offence must be given an alternative judicial classification.[11][28][29]

Sweden also applies a system of expansive offence counts. Other countries may employ more restrictive methods of counting. The Swedish police registers one offence for each person raped, and if one and the same person has been raped on a number of occasions, one offence is counted for each occasion that can be specified. For example, if a woman says she has been raped by her husband every day during a year, the Swedish police may record more than 300 cases of rape. In many other countries only a single offence would be counted in such a situation.[8][11][15][29][30]

In Sweden, crime statistics refer to the year when the offence was reported; the actual offence may have been committed long before. Swedish rape statistics can thus contain significant time-lag, which makes interpretations of annual changes difficult.[11][29]

Legal factors[edit]
The way the crime itself is defined and various related aspects of the judicial process affect the registration of offences in the official statistics.[11][28] The concept of rape can be defined narrowly or in a more expansive manner. In Sweden, the definition of rape has been successively widened over the years, leading to an ever larger number of sexual assaults being classified as rape.[3][12][13][31] For example, in 1992 a legislative change came into force which shifted the dividing line between sexual assault and rape. This legislative change resulted in about a 25% increase in the level of registered rape offences.[11]

Changes in the legal process has also affected the number of reports. Until 1984, rape was only prosecuted in cases where the victim was prepared to press charges, with an additional restriction of a six months time limit. This resulted in numerous cases of rape and sexual assault going unreported.[11]

The Swedish prosecution system is governed by the principle of legality and the "equality principle", which means that as a rule, the police and the prosecution service are required to register and prosecute all offences of which they become aware. This can be assumed to lead to a more frequent registration of offences than in systems with the inverse "expediency principle", where the classification of offences is negotiable on the basis of plea bargaining, and the prosecutor has the right not to prosecute, even when a prosecution would be technically possible.[11][29] English speaking common law countries operate an adversarial system.[32]

Substantive factors[edit]
Willingness to report crime also affects the statistics.[28] In countries where rape remains associated with a strong taboo and a high level of shame, the propensity to report such offences probably tends to be lower than in countries characterized by a higher level of sexual equality. A police force and judicial system enjoining a high level of confidence and a good reputation with the public will produce a higher propensity to report crime than a police force which is discredited, inspires fear or distrust.[11]

The findings of the 2000 International Crime Victims Survey (ICVS) indicate that the respondents' satisfaction with the police is above average in Sweden, with almost no experience of corruption.[33] Sweden has also been ranked number one in sexual equality.[19]

Immigrants[edit]
The anti-immigration Sweden Democrats Party has repeatedly said that the high number of rape reports is at least partly due to the influx of Muslim immigrants.[34][35] Two reports from the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (BRÃ...) are relevant to the rate of rape among immigrants to Sweden and their descendants. The latest published report that indicates the association between immigrants and rape was published in 2005 and revealed that from 1997 to 2001 foreign born individuals were 5.5 times more likely to be charged of rape than individuals born in Sweden to two Swedish parents and that foreign born individuals from all regions, apart from East Asia, committed sexual assaults at rates up to 5.3 times greater than that of individuals born in Sweden to two Swedish parents.[36]
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drunkenshoe

#28
Quote from: PopeyesPappy on February 08, 2016, 11:46:57 AM
This is where we disagree on the usefulness on the application of statistics to crime, Shoe. Even though the majority of reported crimes may be committed by the majority demographic; The minority demographic is committing the same crimes at a higher individual rate.

This doesn't mean that the crimes committed by the majority demographic aren't a problem. It does mean that an individual from the minority is statistically more likely to commit the crime though. While you may not find that significant I do. I do because it would be more effective way to reduce crime by concentrating on changing the behaviors of the minority groups that lead to higher crime rates. That doesn't mean efforts shouldn't be made in changing the behaviors of the majority demographic, but in most cases any efforts in that direction will apply across the entire population. Special attention is required to make changes within the minority demographic in order to bring their crime rates back down to the norm for the population as a whole.

You do not find 'a more likley' significant, you are pointing out a rape epidemic that results in 1 in every 4 women to be raped. You wrote a % 553 (?) increase in rape crime report made years ago, based on the factor of 50 000 men taken recently with refugee crisis.

Your factor is a group of people being muslim men. This is the same thing to say ALL MEN ARE RAPISTS.

You cannot just use rape statistic according to how you see the world. Make up you rmind.

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aitm

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