Native American Confronts Protesters on Illegal Immigration

[Fluffhead]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=aaf_1360011654



 this guy is fucking amazing

[Colanth]

He does have a pretty good point.

[Brian37]

Exactly who is he arguing with because even if he wants to go back to a monarchy even then the people who came over originally were immigrants, and it were immigrants who gave us our independence (not initially) but white  Europeans did defeat the British.

And what kind of religious laws would this native set up if we were to give him what he wanted?

[Colanth]

Exactly who is he arguing with because even if he wants to go back to a monarchy even then the people who came over originally were immigrants, and it were immigrants who gave us our independence (not initially) but white  Europeans did defeat the British.

I think he wants to go back further - to when the white men came here against the wishes of his ancestors.  But he has to realize that those ancestors were also immigrants.  There are no native humans in the Americas.

And what kind of religious laws would this native set up if we were to give him what he wanted?

There were many back before Columbus.  But there were very few (if any) atheists.

[Seabear]

Conventional wisdom has changed over the years. Imperialism used to be the accepted norm.

What happened to Native Americans was wrong. But it's not like they were a single unified nation. There were hundreds of tribes, many at open war with one another to take by force what the other tribe had. So his argument isn't exactly apples to apples.

[Fluffhead]

Exactly who is he arguing with because even if he wants to go back to a monarchy even then the people who came over originally were immigrants, and it were immigrants who gave us our independence (not initially) but white  Europeans did defeat the British.

And what kind of religious laws would this native set up if we were to give him what he wanted?

for starters they would not destroy nature as us whites and call it progress
their  religion is very peaceful.

[Thumpalumpacus]

for starters they would not destroy nature as us whites and call it progress
their  religion is very peaceful.

Nonsense. Firstly, there wasn't one religion.  Secondly, the idea that they were conservative of nature is not borne out by the facts.

[Hydra009]

for starters they would not destroy nature as us whites and call it progress
their  religion is very peaceful.

Nonsense. Firstly, there wasn't one religion.  Secondly, the idea that they were conservative of nature is not borne out by the facts.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner.   =D>

To add to the point:

It's a pretty huge myth that Native Americans lived in harmony with nature.  Like all peoples, they made as much use of the land and its resources as they could, and caused quite a few extinctions in their heyday.  Hell, horses went extinct in the Americas.  Horses.  Among others.

[Fluffhead]

for starters they would not destroy nature as us whites and call it progress
their  religion is very peaceful.

Nonsense. Firstly, there wasn't one religion.  Secondly, the idea that they were conservative of nature is not borne out by the facts.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner.   =D>

To add to the point:

It's a pretty huge myth that Native Americans lived in harmony with nature.  Like all peoples, they made as much use of the land and its resources as they could, and caused quite a few extinctions in their heyday.  Hell, horses went extinct in the Americas.  Horses.  Among others.

but still they made less damage than us

[Plu]

but still they made less damage than us

That's because there weren't as many of them and they lacked the technology we had.

[Hydra009]

but still they made less damage than us

That's because there weren't as many of them and they lacked the technology we had.

Another bingo!  This is fun.   :-D

[Fluffhead]

but still they made less damage than us

That's because there weren't as many of them and they lacked the technology we had.

so what did technology did for us,yes it made some jobs  more easy,but it still did lots on harm on the environment and it also helped killed many people (wars).

lets see how long we can keep this going shall we

[Thumpalumpacus]

but still they made less damage than us

That's because there weren't as many of them and they lacked the technology we had.

so what did technology did for us,yes it made some jobs  more easy,but it still did lots on harm on the environment and it also helped killed many people (wars).

lets see how long we can keep this going shall we

... he typed on his personal computer.   :rollin:  :rollin:

[Hydra009]

so what did technology did for us,yes it made some jobs  more easy,but it still did lots on harm on the environment and it also helped killed many people (wars).

lets see how long we can keep this going shall we

I think the better question is what hasn't technology done for us.  Cause there's a lot.  And one of those things is green technology.   :-D

And humans are plenty murderous with or without technology.  Arguably more so in the past than the present.

So yeah, all this Noble Savage stuff isn't really holding up.

[NitzWalsh]

I can see the Native guys point, his ancestors were on this continent a long time before us European folk showed up. I can also the the illegal immigration protesters points. There are laws in existence now that give instructions on immigration. If the Natives here were at a level capable of enforcing those kinds of laws back in the day it wouldn't be so white in North America today.