Taboo Subjects

[stromboli]

So here we go with the morality thing again. Ask the Imam with a 10 year old bride. We talk about stuff that is in one form or another considered immoral in one context or another all the time. Morality in all its aspects is probably about #3 in the list of most discussed.

Taboo subjects? I grew up in a town where polygamy was secretly practiced, where 2 people I attended school with were the product of inbreeding, where sheepherder children had Syphilis from sex with sheep.

After I got out of the Navy I went back to visit after many years. Turned down the opportunity to have sex with a 12 year old girl who was quite willing. Other people didn't turn her down. Got drunk with a guy who was the child of a polygamous family and had a picture of his "aunt" a sister wife who was also the product of polygamy, kept in seclusion and raped regularly by her "husband." She was also inbred.

That cover the field or is there something else you want to talk about?

[TomFoolery]

I think millennials are putting a completely different spin on polygamy in that they're preferring polyamorous relationships. Polygamy has connotations with extremist fundamentalists or Muslims wherein there's usually an older man and a bunch of women.

The 1960s had free love, but I'm coming across more people practicing open relationships that are becoming more closed with more than two people in them. I think that's hugely taboo, because we went from this idea that it should be one man and one women to now being more open to the idea of two men or two women, but I think almost everyone still raises eyebrows at the idea of a relationship that has something like two men and three women.

[stromboli]

I think millennials are putting a completely different spin on polygamy in that they're preferring polyamorous relationships. Polygamy has connotations with extremist fundamentalists or Muslims wherein there's usually an older man and a bunch of women.

The 1960s had free love, but I'm coming across more people practicing open relationships that are becoming more closed with more than two people in them. I think that's hugely taboo, because we went from this idea that it should be one man and one women to now being more open to the idea of two men or two women, but I think almost everyone still raises eyebrows at the idea of a relationship that has something like two men and three women.

Times and situations change. Back in the day rock and roll was the devil's music and now we have Christian rock bands. The idea of open  relationships was invariably evil, assuming that it became public.

But human nature and basic drives are less changeable. Different societies have had different takes on sexual behavior and morality. The English Romantics- Byron, Shelley, Mary Shelley, Coleridge and their lot had a very open and sexual sharing attitude among themselves. Coleridge was an Opium addict and supposedly Mary Shelley slept with more than one of them. Byron was a soldier of fortune and a mercenary soldier besides being an influential poet and a horny shagger of women; and possibly men.

Lol, different strokes for different folks.

[drunkenshoe]

I just think a public forum is not suitable for asking help on some subjects or even talk about them.

As we experienced a few times before people can threaten others with serious bullshit for very trivial things. Or may be you guys weren't aware.

[stromboli]

I just think a public forum is not suitable for asking help on some subjects or even talk about them.

As we experienced a few times before people can threaten others with serious bullshit for very trivial things. Or may be you guys weren't aware.

Comes back to common sense and the overall view of how the forum is seen by people when they come here. I myself have objected to some threads because I felt they might give an offensive view of the forum. But I'm one of the people who has invested in the forum in terms of buying it from Reggie and keeping it going, so how the forum is seen matters to me. 

And you know, Shoe, just like all us old timers that at some point we have fielded just about every subject imaginable, so "taboo" takes on a different meaning in that context.

[drunkenshoe]

Comes back to common sense and the overall view of how the forum is seen by people when they come here. I myself have objected to some threads because I felt they might give an offensive view of the forum. But I'm one of the people who has invested in the forum in terms of buying it from Reggie and keeping it going, so how the forum is seen matters to me. 

And you know, Shoe, just like all us old timers that at some point we have fielded just about every subject imaginable, so "taboo" takes on a different meaning in that context.

Agreed.

I was referring to a few incidents I coincided and had to deal with 2 of them and it wasn't fun. And not to mention didn't contribute to anything.

[FaithIsFilth]

We tried to talk about pedophilia when a poster said he had feelings for the girl playing in the Sia music videos and another member went as to far to threat to call FBI.

He was just expressing his feelings I guess. But I didn't react in a good way either. When an adult expresses 'love' about an 11 year old girl, you don't see it cute to talk about.

That's the thing with taboos. When someone even wants to talk about it, people reflexively react, esp. when it is about children. It's an urge. We are primates, we are programmed to protect our young from each other. I don't have kids. But it doesn't stop me from reacting violently. It instantly pushes my buttons.

I also honestly don't see what to talk about pedophilia. What is talk going to accomplish? A person comes and says "I'm pedophilic." OK. Then what? The only step forward he could go more is that 'Why not to allow pedophilic people their desire, why it is a taboo?" Is there anything else? That is the nature of the conversation.

I posted the content I did, so that when pedophiles come out here in the future, it will be seen as not such a big deal anymore. I wanted to get the shock and awe out of the way, and when pedophiles come out in the future, I definitely think it's going to be less of a big deal here. I understand why some people were none too impressed or pleased with me talking about what I like or shoving that in people's faces. I did it for the reason I just gave, and I also wanted to fill in the blanks rather than have people fill in the blanks themselves. Even after posting about what I like, some posters still were talking about me fantasizing about naked kids and having sex with them. I laid out exactly what I'm into, and some were still confused, so I can imagine people would have been even more confused if I didn't just put it out there and say I like this and this, but not this and this. I apologise to anyone that was ticked off by my posts talking about my own interests. I understand why you were ticked off. The shock and awe was intentional on my part.

I won't apologise for being on the side of the Liberals and all the big health organizations when it comes to emotional maturity (these organizations argued that upping the AOC would actually hurt young people rather than help them), rather than on the side of the Conservative Party. I somewhat understand the better safe than sorry position these people have, but better safe than sorry is not an argument I'll ever accept. This is the same line of reasoning that gets you the Patriot Act and invasions of Iraq and other countries. What is emotional maturity anyways? In the United States, you have 13 year olds serving life sentences in prison. You have children under the age of ten taking hormones to make their appearance look more like that of the opposite sex, and you have young teenagers serving life sentences who supposedly were emotionally mature enough to know that what they were doing was wrong, but when you ask people about sex, they will often have a different answer for that than they do for when a person is old enough to be sentenced as an adult. There is so much inconsistency here.

As far as the gay and pedo thing, it's like when people ask why blacks are so bigoted towards gays. Blacks should be able to empathize with gays, because blacks had to go through some pretty big struggles like the gays have had to, but blacks are the most homophobic. Now, gays are certainly not the most pedophobic people, or anywhere close to it really, but it is a shame whenever a gay person responds to pedophiles with bigotry.

You ask what talk about pedophila could possibly accomplish? What we want is for society to be less bigoted towards pedophiles and more accepting of us. In the thread I made, someone posted something along the lines of "Well, I think of pedophile as meaning child molester, because whenever the media uses the word pedophile, they are almost exclusively talking about child molesters." Duh! Of course they are pretty much just talking about child molesters, because most of the rest of us are still in the closet. Shiranu I think posted that I should not watch the videos I watch. I like Shiranu and he's a smart guy, but I disagree with him here. Not watching child porn I can agree with and I've never crossed that line, but me not watching what I like, and just bottling it all up? That could be unhealthy and dangerous as well. Look at Catholic Priests. Many of them are gay, but instead of accepting that, they bottle it up, and in many cases that only works against them and they end up ruining young boys lives. Bottling things up is not always the best way to go.

[Shiranu]

I posted the content I did, so that when pedophiles come out here in the future, it will be seen as not such a big deal anymore. I wanted to get the shock and awe out of the way, and when pedophiles come out in the future, I definitely think it's going to be less of a big deal here. I understand why some people were none too impressed or pleased with me talking about what I like or shoving that in people's faces. I did it for the reason I just gave, and I also wanted to fill in the blanks rather than have people fill in the blanks themselves. Even after posting about what I like, some posters still were talking about me fantasizing about naked kids and having sex with them. I laid out exactly what I'm into, and some were still confused, so I can imagine people would have been even more confused if I didn't just put it out there and say I like this and this, but not this and this. I apologise to anyone that was ticked off by my posts talking about my own interests. I understand why you were ticked off. The shock and awe was intentional on my part.

I won't apologise for being on the side of the Liberals and all the big health organizations when it comes to emotional maturity (these organizations argued that upping the AOC would actually hurt young people rather than help them), rather than on the side of the Conservative Party. I somewhat understand the better safe than sorry position these people have, but better safe than sorry is not an argument I'll ever accept. This is the same line of reasoning that gets you the Patriot Act and invasions of Iraq and other countries. What is emotional maturity anyways? In the United States, you have 13 year olds serving life sentences in prison. You have children under the age of ten taking hormones to make their appearance look more like that of the opposite sex, and you have young teenagers serving life sentences who supposedly were emotionally mature enough to know that what they were doing was wrong, but when you ask people about sex, they will often have a different answer for that than they do for when a person is old enough to be sentenced as an adult. There is so much inconsistency here.

As far as the gay and pedo thing, it's like when people ask why blacks are so bigoted towards gays. Blacks should be able to empathize with gays, because blacks had to go through some pretty big struggles like the gays have had to, but blacks are the most homophobic. Now, gays are certainly not the most pedophobic people, or anywhere close to it really, but it is a shame whenever a gay person responds to pedophiles with bigotry.

You ask what talk about pedophila could possibly accomplish? What we want is for society to be less bigoted towards pedophiles and more accepting of us. In the thread I made, someone posted something along the lines of "Well, I think of pedophile as meaning child molester, because whenever the media uses the word pedophile, they are almost exclusively talking about child molesters." Duh! Of course they are pretty much just talking about child molesters, because most of the rest of us are still in the closet. Shiranu I think posted that I should not watch the videos I watch. I like Shiranu and he's a smart guy, but I disagree with him here. Not watching child porn I can agree with and I've never crossed that line, but me not watching what I like, and just bottling it all up? That could be unhealthy and dangerous as well. Look at Catholic Priests. Many of them are gay, but instead of accepting that, they bottle it up, and in many cases that only works against them and they end up ruining young boys lives. Bottling things up is not always the best way to go.

I'm not sure I remember, honestly. I don't have a problem with simulated ( like animated/hentai)... It's just any where the actor is actually underage I have a problem with.

[PickelledEggs]

Jannabear, what is your full name and how much money did you make last year?


I find it interesting that guys will tell you their sexual interests but not their income, their physical endowment but not financial endowments.

I'm also interested in social security numbers, mother's maiden names, and home addresses, including an address of your previous home if you have moved within the last 5 years.

What are your guys first pet's name?
Name of the first place you went to school?
Father's middle name?

These are all very interesting subjects to me.

(I'm joking. don't answer any of those questions... to anyone on this forum.)

[drunkenshoe]

I posted the content I did, so that when pedophiles come out here in the future, it will be seen as not such a big deal anymore. I wanted to get the shock and awe out of the way, and when pedophiles come out in the future, I definitely think it's going to be less of a big deal here. I understand why some people were none too impressed or pleased with me talking about what I like or shoving that in people's faces. I did it for the reason I just gave, and I also wanted to fill in the blanks rather than have people fill in the blanks themselves. Even after posting about what I like, some posters still were talking about me fantasizing about naked kids and having sex with them. I laid out exactly what I'm into, and some were still confused, so I can imagine people would have been even more confused if I didn't just put it out there and say I like this and this, but not this and this. I apologise to anyone that was ticked off by my posts talking about my own interests. I understand why you were ticked off. The shock and awe was intentional on my part.

I won't apologise for being on the side of the Liberals and all the big health organizations when it comes to emotional maturity (these organizations argued that upping the AOC would actually hurt young people rather than help them), rather than on the side of the Conservative Party. I somewhat understand the better safe than sorry position these people have, but better safe than sorry is not an argument I'll ever accept. This is the same line of reasoning that gets you the Patriot Act and invasions of Iraq and other countries.What is emotional maturity anyways? In the United States, you have 13 year olds serving life sentences in prison. You have children under the age of ten taking hormones to make their appearance look more like that of the opposite sex, and you have young teenagers serving life sentences who supposedly were emotionally mature enough to know that what they were doing was wrong, but when you ask people about sex, they will often have a different answer for that than they do for when a person is old enough to be sentenced as an adult. There is so much inconsistency here.

As far as the gay and pedo thing, it's like when people ask why blacks are so bigoted towards gays. Blacks should be able to empathize with gays, because blacks had to go through some pretty big struggles like the gays have had to, but blacks are the most homophobic. Now, gays are certainly not the most pedophobic people, or anywhere close to it really, but it is a shame whenever a gay person responds to pedophiles with bigotry.

You ask what talk about pedophila could possibly accomplish? What we want is for society to be less bigoted towards pedophiles and more accepting of us. In the thread I made, someone posted something along the lines of "Well, I think of pedophile as meaning child molester, because whenever the media uses the word pedophile, they are almost exclusively talking about child molesters." Duh! Of course they are pretty much just talking about child molesters, because most of the rest of us are still in the closet. Shiranu I think posted that I should not watch the videos I watch. I like Shiranu and he's a smart guy, but I disagree with him here. Not watching child porn I can agree with and I've never crossed that line, but me not watching what I like, and just bottling it all up? That could be unhealthy and dangerous as well. Look at Catholic Priests. Many of them are gay, but instead of accepting that, they bottle it up, and in many cases that only works against them and they end up ruining young boys lives. Bottling things up is not always the best way to go.

You arrived to the exact point I described above. This is exactly what I am talking about. You go around and around after a lot of fucking bullshit at some point arrive to 'what is emotonal maturity anyways?' which equals to say "Why people can't have sex with children?" Children being jailed at 13 or International war policies are not at ticket for you to have sex with children. Something you can get with basic intelligence whatever is your urge. 

Also pedophilia has nothing to do with homosexuality. Those priests are NOT homosexuals. A homosexual is attracted to adults, he/she  doesn't have sex with children as an adult. Stop making stupid statements out of your ass.

We cannot agree on this, because obviously you can not understand that people need a certain mental fortitude to give sexual consent. An 11 year old girl cannot give consent to you. Neither a 13 year old one. Doesn't matter how mature children are there is a line of age needs to be drawn. And it is not based on your personal understanding of "What is emotional maturity anyway?"

And NO, very highly likely, an adult having sex with a child WILL ALWAYS BE A TABOO, because it is NOT beneficial to the modern society. It's not fuctional, it is harmful. So stop dreaming about it.

This is WHY talking about pedophilia is not a topic for a public forum. Because it doesn't accomplish anything other than a pedophile finally arriving to the point of "why can't I do that, while blah blah are happening?"

[drunkenshoe]

I'm not sure I remember, honestly. I don't have a problem with simulated ( like animated/hentai)... It's just any where the actor is actually underage I have a problem with.

Short time ago. It was about a Sia music video, you'll remember it. You joined as I remember. I didn't mention any nicks, so subject wouldn't come up like this again. But no, it has to. Now a mother or a father will come and threaten with FBI like it happened before. Then why don't we talk about taboo subjects? This is why. It doesn't accomplish anything and create trouble.

(By the way the two incidents I was talking about two other ones we had years ago. Yes that one and something else. Not to mention what happened ot GYMIR. Not this.)

[FaithIsFilth]

You arrived to the exact point I described above. This is exactly what I am talking about. You go around and around after a lot of fucking bullshit at some point arrive to 'what is emotonal maturity anyways?' which equals to say "Why people can't have sex with children?" Children being jailed at 13 or International war policies are not at ticket for you to have sex with children. Something you can get with basic intelligence whatever is your urge. 

Also pedophilia has nothing to do with homosexuality. Those priests are NOT homosexuals. A homosexual is attracted to adults, he/she  doesn't have sex with children as an adult. Stop making stupid statements out of your ass.

We cannot agree on this, because obviously you can not understand that people need a certain mental fortitude to give sexual consent. An 11 year old girl cannot give consent to you. Neither a 13 year old one. Doesn't matter how mature children are there is a line of age needs to be drawn. And it is not based on your personal understanding of "What is emotional maturity anyway?"

And NO, very highly likely, an adult having sex with a child WILL ALWAYS BE A TABOO, because it is NOT beneficial to the modern society. It's not fuctional, it is harmful. So stop dreaming about it.

This is WHY talking about pedophilia is not a topic for a public forum. Because it doesn't accomplish anything other than a pedophile finally arriving to the point of "why can't I do that, while blah blah are happening?"

I like you as a poster and we can agree to disagree here. I'm not here to call anyone names, and I have no hard feelings for anyone who hasn't liked what I've had to post. I brought up emotional maturity in this thread just to show that people weren't being consistent. Do the people who agree with an 18 year old AOC also agree that a 17 year old killer should not be charged as an adult? They usually have no problem with that 17 year old being charged as an adult and accepting that the killer probably had the emotional maturity to know what they were doing, but when sex comes up, emotional maturity all of a sudden means something different. I guess all those health organizations like Planned Parenthood and the Canadian Aids society just wanted to have sex with kids too. Why else would they be arguing in favour of a lower AOC? There is no other good reason to be in favour of a lower AOC according to you, so please explain to me why Planned Parenthood, The Canadian Aids Society, the Liberal Party of Canada, and other organizations were against a higher AOC. Obviously all of these organizations were just filled with pedos looking to live out their fantasies, right? I understand that you think my ideal AOC is too young and I respect your opinion on that. Let's leave it at that.

Many of those priests absolutely are homosexual. Homosexual means you are attracted to males. Not men. Males, which can be men or boys, or even babies. You yourself said in the last thread that in your opinion sexual orientation has nothing to do with age. Also, studies tell us that around half of child molesters are not even pedophiles. They have other conditions and other stuff wrong with them that causes them to molest children. Many child molesters are homosexuals. Many of them are pedophiles. Plenty of them are neither pedophiles or homosexuals. People ignore these studies about half of child molesters not being pedophiles, because they like catchy terms. Pedophile priest is just so catchy, so people ignore the reality that many of these people are not pedophiles, and they just go with the term because it's catchy and sounds good to them. They don't care if they are being accurate in their description, because pedophiles are dirt anyways, so who cares if pedos face discrimination?

We will just have to agree to disagree here. I'm not going to shove what I like in people's faces again, and I want to make sure I don't say anything that would make any poster want to leave the forum. The last thing I want is to harm the forum.

[drunkenshoe]

I'm glad the subject is closed.

[FaithIsFilth]

Short time ago. It was about a Sia music video, you'll remember it. You joined as I remember. I didn't mention any nicks, so subject wouldn't come up like this again. But no, it has to. Now a mother or a father will come and threaten with FBI like it happened before. Then why don't we talk about taboo subjects? This is why. It doesn't accomplish anything and create trouble.

If it helps anyone sleep at night, they should go ahead and contact the FBI or anyone else they see fit to contact. Don't worry about offending me. I don't get offended.

[drunkenshoe]

If it helps anyone sleep at night, they should go ahead and contact the FBI or anyone else they see fit to contact. Don't worry about offending me. I don't get offended.

I'm not worried about offending anyone. That worry is about the forum. Not about you.