Vote for who you actually want

[Mermaid]

Except the fact that he's pretty much the black version of bush and is a complete fucking pussy.

Yyyeah. If you say so.

[Jannabear]

Yyyeah. If you say so.

Close a retarded military prison that unfairly imprisons people when he said he would?
Nope.
Put strict gun control into place?
Eventually, but it took him... Ages.
Help out the poor and struggling...
Obamacare is a halfassed version of what actually needs to be done.
Stand up for his political opinions regardless of who opposes him?
Fuck no.

[Mermaid]

Sounds like you like to obtain half the facts about an issue and then run with it.

[josephpalazzo]

Close a retarded military prison that unfairly imprisons people when he said he would?
Nope.

Only because no governor of any state wanted to take those prisoners. What do you want? A complete release so that these people can go back and take arms against American civilians??

Stand up for his political opinions regardless of who opposes him?
Fuck no.

A president cannot enact any law - that's Congress job. And with a Congress dominated by Republicans, most of then hell bent to make him fail, what do you expect??? There was/is gridlock not because of Obama.

[Jannabear]

Only because no governor of any state wanted to take those prisoners. What do you want? A complete release so that these people can go back and take arms against American civilians??
-Nope, a trial, no one should be sent to a prison without a trial by jury, regardless of what they're accused of.
A president cannot enact any law - that's Congress job. And with a Congress dominated by Republicans, most of then hell bent to make him fail, what do you expect??? There was/is gridlock not because of Obama.
-I guess I can see why he would have a hard time getting anything done, but it didn't even seem like he stood fervent on any of his liberal positions.

[gentle_dissident]

I'll just leave these here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DW6IKG9d_8
At least the ACA has created jobs. My company now has to keep hours under 35, so it won't have to pay insurance. It has to hire more people to fill the gaps. I'm now making less money and and am being forced to pay for insurance that I couldn't afford before. I can't even afford the deductible. This doesn't feel like socialism to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLFmGu57jLI

[FaithIsFilth]

We currently have one.

So true. Obama arming Al Qaeda and using them as his ground troops means you have less American troops on the ground, and therefore less American troops will commit suicide in the long run because of PTSD. Obama is so caring. Best President ever.

[Baruch]

ACA isn't socialist ... it is crony capitalist.  Idiots think that anything the R-team is for, is capitalist ... and anyone who opposes the R-team is socialist.  This is completely false.  R-team loves corporate socialism.  They just hate anyone who isn't a corporation (or at least a subchapter S-corporation for tax purposes).

[Jason Harvestdancer]

Most of the electorate are idiots who can't see beyond the party label.  Most of the idiots under the D label are supporting Hillary because that's who they're supposed to support and are drinking the "Bernie can't win" kool aid by the gallon.  Most of the idiots under the R label are supporting Trump because he's different, but never suspect that he's so different that just a few years ago he was a pro-choice Democrat donating to Hillary.

[Baruch]

Most of the electorate are idiots who can't see beyond the party label.  Most of the idiots under the D label are supporting Hillary because that's who they're supposed to support and are drinking the "Bernie can't win" kool aid by the gallon.  Most of the idiots under the R label are supporting Trump because he's different, but never suspect that he's so different that just a few years ago he was a pro-choice Democrat donating to Hillary.

Democracy is so ... 200 years ago.  We need a 2.0 system update STAT!

[gentle_dissident]

Most of the idiots under the R label are supporting Trump because he's different, but never suspect that he's so different that just a few years ago he was a pro-choice Democrat donating to Hillary.

I've been waiting for Trump's gotcha where he gives a speech about people being so willing to support opportunists who tell them what they want to hear. He seems to be ramping up his rhetoric to see how far he can take it.

[Baruch]

I've been waiting for Trump's gotcha where he gives a speech about people being so willing to support opportunists who tell them what they want to hear. He seems to be ramping up his rhetoric to see how far he can take it.

Naw ... Trump will pull off his human mask, revealing the reptilian underneath, expecting to shock the audience.  But it won't shock, the Republicans will pull off their human masks, revealing  a reptilian underneath ;-)

This is an old Outer Limits or Twilight Zone episode.  The story has a traveling salesman stopping at a diner.  After the other customers leave, he addresses the fry cook, he reveals a third arm under his coat ... "Us Martians are taking over your planet, human!  The fry cook pulls back his paper hat, revealing a third eye ... "Not so fast, our Venusian fleet will intercept yours in Earth orbit and shoot you down.  This planet belongs to us!".

[gentle_dissident]

If trump wants to be remembered for hundreds of years, he'll pull the stunt.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/07/09/ths-many-ways-in-which-donald-trump-was-once-a-liberals-liberal/

[Shiranu]

And what if I "want" to vote for the lesser of two evils because I rather be kicked in the face than shot in it?

[Unbeliever]

I've listened to Bernie for so long on Thom Hartmann's program that I feel as if I know him personally. He talks about the same things now that he's been talking about for years, and I like that.