Oregon Ranchers Occupy Federal Building For Some Reason Or Other

[Atheon]

Let all the reich-wingers go there. Then wall them off.

[Solomon Zorn]

The guy that almost died in the fire they set would probably disagree.

Didn't know about that.

But my real point though, was that the thing has taken on a life of it's own, independent of the arson charges.

[Hydra009]

Malheur National Wildlife Refuge !?!? Malheur is French for bad luck.

WTF.

Yep.  The wildlife refuge is named after the Malheur river, which got its name because Canadian fur trader and explorer Peter Skene Ogden put a cache of furs there and the cache was discovered and stolen.

[josephpalazzo]

Yep.  The wildlife refuge is named after the Malheur river, which got its name because Canadian fur trader and explorer Peter Skene Ogden put a cache of furs there and the cache was discovered and stolen.

Thanks for the info. i guess bad luck hasn't run out yet with this occupation...

On another note: how come no one has called these "terrorists"? I mean, they are armed, they have political motivations, and they're ready to 'die for their cause'.

[Shiranu]

Twitter game on point.

Did the cops shoot the armed thugs who took over federal property within two seconds? No, that's only for black children? #OregonUnderAttack@cenkuyger

And people say white privilege doesn't exist. Smh #OregonUnderAttack @berniesanders

they called them angry dudes in oregon #YallQaeda waging #YeeHawd, and i almost died.

Edit... a couple more...

Sell cigs - choked out
Steal cigars - shot up
Play w/ toys - shot up

Take over federal bldg - cops ask nicely ¯\_(ãƒ,,)_/¯ #Bundy

Did I miss the call for the national guard in Oregon? I recall them in Ferguson and Baltimore. #OregonUnderAttack

I do hope this ends peacefully, and when it does I hope we can figure out how these folks were radicalized.

Even if these guys said "our goal is to incite terror, fear among people" I still doubt they'd be called terrorists. #OregonUnderAttack

All these armed white dudes will probably leave unharmed, unless they accidentally shoot themselves. #OregonUnderAttack

I wish I knew how to copy paste the Twitters :(.

[Atheon]

On another note: how come no one has called these "terrorists"? I mean, they are armed, they have political motivations, and they're ready to 'die for their cause'.

Because they're white.

[FaithIsFilth]

White people have been called terrorists plenty. Dylan Roof is called a terrorist by the media. The Planned Parenthood shooter is called a terrorist by the media. The couple that shot the cops in Walmart are called terrorists. 9/11 truthers are called terrorists. I'm pretty sure in the US, most truthers are white. People who question any big event are labelled terrorists.

What did these militia members not do? Burn multiple buildings down. Call for the city to be burned down. Rob and assault reporters. Loot stores. Punch cops in the head.

The arsonists in question already served the time they were sentenced to. If they were given too little time, that should be on the judge imo. I don't think they should have to serve more time. I'm not saying I agree with the occupation either, but I just wanted to point out that whites are demonized plenty in the corporate media.

Cops can't go asking every person they see pointing a gun whether it's a toy. That would be ridiculous. Perhaps the cop should have told him to drop it before shooting him, but in doing that, you are risking taking a bullet in the chest. The lesson from all this I think is, if you are a black parent, don't let your kids play with realistic looking toy guns outdoors, especially if your kid can pass for a teenager.

What we are also forgetting, is that many of these blacks call themselves "thug". Many of them take pride in being called thug. Many rappers like the word so much, they put it in their name. My brother, before graduating from University, stole cars with his friends, broke into houses, and called himself thug as a teen. He listened to the music that glorified being a thug. The music told you being a thug is what you want to be. This is what rap music still is today. After the Mike Brown incident happened, I called him a thug, and I was called out by multiple posters. One posted an image from American History X, as if I was a skinhead who fantasized about curb stomping niggas. Well, I don't. Mike Brown earned his bullets for attacking a cop. He earned his World's Dumbest Criminal award for walking down the middle of the street with stolen merchandise. What kind of thug is that stupid? I called Mike Brown a thug, but I take that back. That would actually be an insult to all the real not so stupid thugs out there. Mike Brown is a clown, not a thug. People burning down stores and calling for the city to be burned down though? Those are thugs. Black people protesting in the street but not burning the city down? These people are not thugs and should not be labelled thugs, unless they are gang members or something. The ones burning shit down were the one's being labelled thugs. Racists might call all black protesters thugs, but that is to be expected. They are racists afterall.

You can't compare the militia members in the OP to the 12 year old that got shot. They mistook the toy gun for a real gun, and mistakes like that happen. Why don't we compare this story in the OP, to black protesters burning their city down? The black folks weren't shot for burning their city down, just like the white folks in the OP weren't shot for occupying the building. Why weren't the black people burning down the city labelled terrorists? They never were. Militias may not be labelled terrorists that often, but they are almost always labelled extremist by mainstream media. Labelling someone extremist is pretty darn close to labelling them terrorists.

[Solomon Zorn]

I was going to say something PC, but you know what? Fuck those assholes.They brought men with guns and "peacefully" took over federal buildings. I won't shed a tear when men with guns "peacefully" escort them to prison.

[stromboli]

They have been branded "Y'all Qaeda" by the media. Works for me.

[stromboli]

The Mormon church has disavowed their actions

http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/church-responds-to-inquiries-regarding-oregon-armed-occupation

While the disagreement occurring in Oregon about the use of federal lands is not a Church matter, Church leaders strongly condemn the armed seizure of the facility and are deeply troubled by the reports that those who have seized the facility suggest that they are doing so based on scriptural principles. This armed occupation can in no way be justified on a scriptural basis. We are privileged to live in a nation where conflicts with government or private groups can â€" and should â€" be settled using peaceful means, according to the laws of the land.

Stupid they aren't. They disavowed Cliven Bundy as well.

[josephpalazzo]

Because they're white.

Yahoo!

[Baruch]

The Bundy brothers wanted more than their allotted 15 minutes of fame.  Surround them and wait them out.  Cut power, water and sewer.  But no, they will not be treated like the Black cop who defected from the LAPD bigot crowd and was burned to death trapped in someone's cabin.  On the other hand, maybe these guys aren't as dangerous as the SLA boys who were trapped in that house in LA ... which also was burned.  Basically these guys are lucky the LAPD isn't involved ... or the ATF guys.  Otherwise we would have a Branch Bundian situation on our hands ;-(

[stromboli]

Like I said in the OP, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Ol' Clive raised his boys RIGHT. I'm Still waiting for Sarah Palin to chime in. I'm pretty sure the Republican candidates are all watching the media to see which way the wind blows right wing wise before they open their blow holes and start opining on the state of white suppression from our Muslim president.

[SGOS]

I like the part in the title of this thread, "For Some Reason Or Other."  The Cliven boys are at it again.  Who knows about what this time?

[Baruch]

I like the part in the title of this thread, "For Some Reason Or Other."  The Cliven boys are at it again.  Who knows about what this time?

Same as the Dominionists hiding out in the Big Bend area of Texas years ago (you hearing me, Ted Cruz's daddy?).