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3 in 5 Syrian rebels are Islamist, 1 in 3 share ISIS aims
« on: December 20, 2015, 03:02:01 AM »
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At least 15 rebel forces in Syria are ready to succeed so-called Islamic State (IS) if it is defeated by the US-led coalition, new research suggests.

The Centre on Religion and Geopolitics, linked to former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair, also says that 60% of the rebels could be classified as Islamists.

It argues that attempts by world powers to distinguish between moderate and extremist factions are flawed.

Western countries have stepped up air strikes against IS in Syria and Iraq.

But the Centre on Religion and Geopolitics said the greatest danger to the international community was groups who share the IS ideology but are currently being ignored.

They number about 100,000 fighters, the centre said.

"The West risks making a strategic failure by focusing only on IS," the centre said. "Defeating it militarily will not end global jihadism. We cannot bomb an ideology, but our war is ideological."

If IS is defeated, dispersed fighters and other extremists could attack targets outside Syria under a rallying cry that "the West destroyed the Caliphate", the centre warned.

Such new groups could compete for the spotlight to ensure allegiance from the global fighters and financing that IS currently attracts.

By contrast, fewer than a quarter of the rebels surveyed were not ideological, the centre said.

But many of those were willing to fight alongside extremists and would probably accept an Islamist political settlement to the civil war, it claimed.

In response, the military campaign against IS must be accompanied by an "intellectual and theological defeat of the pernicious ideology that drives it", the centre said.

It also said that unless Syrian President Bashar al-Assad leaves or is removed from office, the war in the country is likely to spread further.

Offline pr126

Re: 3 in 5 Syrian rebels are Islamist, 1 in 3 share ISIS aims
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2015, 03:39:19 AM »
I don't believe this.
99.999999 % of Muslims are moderate and peaceful.

There could be no more than a dozen "extremist" who have hijacked and misunderstood the peaceful noble religion.

Nothing to worry about. This article is just scaremongering. It's lies I tell you. Lies!
Besides, the moderate Muslims, our allies, the Muslim Bros the Taleban and the al Qaida will not allow these few "extremist" to get the upper hand. I am sure of it.
So stop worrying.

« Last Edit: December 20, 2015, 06:09:59 AM by pr126 »

Offline Baruch

Re: 3 in 5 Syrian rebels are Islamist, 1 in 3 share ISIS aims
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2015, 10:52:49 AM »
Not every refugee is a rebel.  Not every person staying behind is a Assad supporter.  But each refugee must be vetted.  This is where European governments fail to do their job.  To visit many countries, you need a visa.  That is when the consulate vetts you.
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Offline pr126

Re: 3 in 5 Syrian rebels are Islamist, 1 in 3 share ISIS aims
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2015, 12:09:41 PM »
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Not every refugee is a rebel.  Not every person staying behind is a Assad supporter.  But each refugee must be vetted.  This is where European governments fail to do their job.  To visit many countries, you need a visa.  That is when the consulate vetts you.
How? When did any of the hundreds of thousands "refugees" have queued up at any consulates seeking permissions to enter? You got to be joking.
And even if they did, how do you know what they are saying is true?
How can it be verified?
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Offline Baruch

Re: 3 in 5 Syrian rebels are Islamist, 1 in 3 share ISIS aims
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2015, 03:05:57 PM »
No visa, no entry.  Where are your $%&^ armies now?  Stop relying on the US!  The US was able to handle the temporary upsurge in Honduran children ... not without some bitching, and it was smaller than the European problem.  But in Europe's case ... the problem is the border with Turkey, particularly on the sea.  This could have been militarized ... even if it meant pissing off Turkey.  Better to militarize there than at the Austrian border?  If Turkey is the problem, then Germany should have declared war on Turkey (they already have made Greece their bitch) and occupied.  This might have pissed off the US ... but it is high time the US was expelled from Europe, don't you think?  We are 20 years late in leaving after the fall of the USSR.  Germany's natural ally is Russia, not the US.  They should have realized this in 1900 ... then no WW I, no WW II.
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Offline Nonsensei

Re: 3 in 5 Syrian rebels are Islamist, 1 in 3 share ISIS aims
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2015, 03:57:01 PM »
This is no big surprise. If there were civil war against the federal government in the US, the rebelling faction would be made up of lots of different kinds of people. You would find yourself in the trenches next to members of the KKK. Civil war tends to make a lot of unlikely bedfellows.
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All alone in desperation now the time has come
Lost inside you\'ll never find, lost within my own mind
Day after day this misery must go on

Offline Shiranu

Re: 3 in 5 Syrian rebels are Islamist, 1 in 3 share ISIS aims
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2015, 06:04:03 PM »
I'm sure the minority of Syrians who stayed behind to fight make a great cross section of what the majority of Muslims are like...
"Judge a moth by the beauty of its candle." - Rumi

Offline pr126

Re: 3 in 5 Syrian rebels are Islamist, 1 in 3 share ISIS aims
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2015, 11:10:14 PM »
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I'm sure the minority of Syrians who stayed behind to fight make a great cross section of what the majority of Muslims are like...
You mean there are Syrians staying behind to fight for peace and democracy? Really?

Offline pr126

Re: 3 in 5 Syrian rebels are Islamist, 1 in 3 share ISIS aims
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2015, 11:16:41 PM »
Baruch wrote:
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No visa, no entry.  Where are your $%&^ armies now?
Really? What are you talking about? The EU gov. wants those migrants in Europe.
The European people have no say in the matter.

And for more migrants, North America (US, Canada) wants them too. Lots and lots.

Who decided that by 2020 the majority of the Middle East population (preferably young Muslim males) has to be transferred to Europe and North America?

And why? What is going on?

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Offline Baruch

Re: 3 in 5 Syrian rebels are Islamist, 1 in 3 share ISIS aims
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2015, 06:19:54 AM »
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Baruch wrote:Really? What are you talking about? The EU gov. wants those migrants in Europe.
The European people have no say in the matter.

And for more migrants, North America (US, Canada) wants them too. Lots and lots.

Who decided that by 2020 the majority of the Middle East population (preferably young Muslim males) has to be transferred to Europe and North America?

And why? What is going on?

But that is conspiracy theory.  Ask your reptilian masters at the next Bilderberger meeting ;-)
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