Hillary Muslims 'Have Nothing Whatsoever To Do With Terrorism'

Started by pr126, November 20, 2015, 11:33:49 PM

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CloneKai

Quote from: SGOS on November 21, 2015, 12:01:16 PM
PC exists in all cultures, even yours.  The people who are PC, don't usually realize it's PC.  They just think it's correct.  But the definition of PC is kind of a wispy.  I've heard a couple of definitions from experts (who don't even agree), so over the years, I've decided it's the kind of think that you know it when you see it.  Rigid cultures in the Mideast seem extremely into political correctness.  You see Saddam walking down the street, you cheer, even if he raped your daughter, or your friends will shun you if you don't cheer (an example of PC as per my own definition so it may not be the politically correct definition of "politically correct"). :biggrin:

Politicians are very tuned into their own political correctness.  They assume politically correct positions, but their PC is just tied to popularity.  Their motivations are purely manipulative and calculating.  I don't really call this political correctness.  It's more like hiding your true identity, something that skilled politicians have mastered... until they get caught having an extramarital affair with some bimbo, which happens a lot.
Don't you need politics to have pc thing
i don't think it applies to dictators.

in our culture you call it taboos. like no one talk about sex because its a taboo. or  in politics, not talking about separating our churches from the state, everyone already knows that is one of the worst possible thing that can happen.

but it doesn't feel the same, of course it depends on the definition of the term pc.

Shiranu

Quote from: pr126 on November 21, 2015, 12:24:47 PM
Mermaid wrote:

And that will confirm that today Christians STILL engage in mass murders, stoning of adulterers, executing homosexuals, rape, torture, beheadings, slavery?

What are you smoking?




So what do you call what's happening in Africa? Are they not "True Christians"?
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Baruch

Quote from: pr126 on November 21, 2015, 12:24:47 PM
Mermaid wrote:

And that will confirm that today Christians STILL engage in mass murders, stoning of adulterers, executing homosexuals, rape, torture, beheadings, slavery?

What are you smoking?

Christians aren't more evolved versions of Muslims ... I just heard a couple of rednecks discussing things at the restaurant where I had breakfast ... it wasn't pretty.  So are you incapable of making contemporary anthropological observations?  A lot easier than dealing with the psyops that is history.
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Baruch

Quote from: pr126 on November 21, 2015, 11:04:01 AM
So what the heck are those AMERICAN Christians waiting for? An RSVP?
Let loose the dogs of war.

Or this is just an imagination? Wishful thinking? Leftist hive mind?

I call bullshit.
If the [American] Christian fundamentalism is as strong as of the adherents of the RoP we sure would see some manifestations of that. Piles of dead bodies, stoning of adulterers, executing homosexuals, rape, torture, beheadings.

So far nothing. Why is that? Does the NewTestament commands eternal warfare against non Christians?

I don't know why this only happening in America?

What are you people smoking?

Answering you and CloneKai ... you aren't Americans.  Not even Americans understand America.  What chance do you have of doing so?  Like trying to find order in turbulence.  Just wait until Satan/Putin tries to invade Jerusalem .. then pow ... right in the kisser!
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SGOS

Quote from: CloneKai on November 21, 2015, 12:25:14 PM
Don't you need politics to have pc thing
i don't think it applies to dictators.

in our culture you call it taboos. like no one talk about sex because its a taboo. or  in politics, not talking about separating our churches from the state, everyone already knows that is one of the worst possible thing that can happen.

but it doesn't feel the same, of course it depends on the definition of the term pc.


At first glance, by definition, politics might be necessary, since "political" is already included in the terminology.  But in English there are semantic definitions of "politics" used in more than one way.  Office politics doesn't have anything to do with government in the usual sense, but it does have to do with management.  In lay terms it means kissing the ass of your superior, or just getting along with influential co-workers.   Management is also closely aligned with government. So I think politics exists in a dictatorship too.  Also, it should be noted that politics includes a much broader range of behaviors than simply campaigning for office and voting.  It involves complex array of lobbying, voting, manipulating, lying, distribution of propaganda, and on an on.  And some of those behaviors exist in a dictatorship.  How do you quiet rebellion?  How do you placate the masses?  It's all part of politics in any government.

PC is a relatively new term.  It's always been there, but it's recently become part of public awareness.  It is usually used as a derogatory description of someone.  But the thing about political correctness is that it can be either true or false, in spite of what the term suggests.  Just because some liberals (usually it's applied to liberals) voice politically correct positions, doesn't mean they are actually correct.  Often they are sound ideas beneficial to all.  Sometimes they are more like posturing for the consumption of peers. 

Conservatives also have politically correct views.  If you are a republican in a red neck state, it would be politically correct to call for discrimination towards gay people.  It's also politically correct to call for prudence in spending, which conservatives falsely claim to have a monopoly on.  And prudent spending makes sense to most everyone, even most economists.  While prudence in spending is a virtue (no argument there), it is often a hidden agenda for the redistribution of wealth to favored political contributors.  So in a way, political correctness is a meaningless position.

Baruch

Political corruption can work out pretty well in the end ... as any bio of President Truman could tell you.  The only question is ... is your family on the local gravy train or not?
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pr126

Quote from: Shiranu on November 21, 2015, 01:10:38 PM
So what do you call what's happening in Africa? Are they not "True Christians"?
But they are a just tiny minority of extremists. You cannot judge a whole group of people because a few radicals.
The vast majority are moderate and peaceful.

Gross generalisation. Bigot! Racist! 

Baruch

Quote from: pr126 on November 21, 2015, 01:48:42 PM
But they are a just tiny minority of extremists. You cannot judge a whole group of people because a few radicals.
The vast majority are moderate and peaceful.

Gross generalisation. Bigot! Racist!

Yes, Africa's diabolical plot to raise the average melanin content of humanity, has to be stopped at all costs!  Bwahaha
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Shiranu

Quote from: pr126 on November 21, 2015, 01:48:42 PM
But they are a just tiny minority of extremists. You cannot judge a whole group of people because a few radicals.
The vast majority are moderate and peaceful.

Gross generalisation. Bigot! Racist! 



No one is accusing Christians in the first-world of being violent because of the terrorists groups of Christians murdering throughout Central Africa just as ISIS is doing in the Middle East. No one is accusing Christians in the first-world as "silently supporting" terrorism as the anti-balaka come into towns and massacre Muslims, forcing them to convert or be mutilated and killed. No one accuses Christianity of a religion that can never be changed because in Africa the murder homosexuals and "witches".

The only one who does anything remotely like that is your ilk; your little stab only pointed out that you are doing exactly the same thing, just replace "African Christians" with "The In Vogue Boogieman Of The Day". When you say those things about Christians because it's done in Africa, it looks ridiculous... the point I think you were trying to make. Yet when you say the exact same thing about Muslims, suddenly it is rational.

I shale end this with some quotes from the Qu'ran...

QuoteThen he said to them, "This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: 'Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.' "The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died. Then Moses said, "You have been set apart to the LORD today, for you were against your own sons and brothers, and he has blessed you this day."(NIV)

QuoteThe sons of Judah also captured 10,000 alive and brought them to the top of the cliff and threw them down from the top of the cliff, so that they were all dashed to pieces.(NASB)

QuoteThen a man of God came and spoke to the king of Israel, and said, “Thus says the LORD: 'Because the Syrians have said, “The LORD is God of the hills, but He is not God of the valleys,” therefore I will deliver all this great multitude into your hand, and you shall know that I am the LORD.’” And they encamped opposite each other for seven days.

So it was that on the seventh day the battle was joined; and the children of Israel killed one hundred thousand foot soldiers of the Syrians in one day. But the rest fled to Aphek, into the city; then a wall fell on twenty-seven thousand of the men who were left. (NKJV)

QuoteWhen the Israelite army finished chasing and killing all the men of Ai in the open fields, they went back and finished off everyone inside. So the entire population of Ai, including men and women, was wiped out that dayâ€"12,000 in all. For Joshua kept holding out his spear until everyone who had lived in Ai was completely destroyed. (NLT)

QuoteNow go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.' " … He took Agag king of the Amalekites alive, and all his people he totally destroyed with the sword.(NIV)

QuoteSamaria shall bear her guilt, because she has rebelled against her God; they shall fall by the sword, their little ones shall be dashed in pieces, and their pregnant women ripped open. (NRSV)

Man, the Qu'ran is violent... wait, that was the Bible. But I thought only Muhammad had a monopoly on the, "Violent Warlord" market and that is what set Islam apart... hmmm...
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

FaithIsFilth

#24
Clinton here sounds pretty much just like ISIS. "If you do this, you are not really a Muslim". I'm sorry, but Hillary nor ISIS get to decide who the "real" Muslims are. You can be a Muslim and be violent, and you can be a Muslim and be non-violent. Killing someone doesn't make you non-Muslim just like doing the same doesn't make you a non-Christian. To those saying they agree with Clinton here, do you think the prison population in the US is mostly non-Christian? No? Then how can you possibly agree with Clinton here? Muslims obviously have something to do with terrorism. It's not the self proclaimed atheist arabs doing the damage. The only way you can possibly think Muslims have nothing to do with terrorism is if you think these Muslim terrorists don't count as real Muslims.

Clinton doesn't believe this herself anyways guys, so the few of you that agreed are agreeing with a position that she doesn't even hold in reality lol. She is saying this to get the Muslim vote, and because it makes sense to suck up to Islam. It will trick a bunch of people into thinking she is pro Muslim, even though her plan is to start wars in the Middle East and fuck shit up even worse for the Muslims living over there.

mauricio

Quote from: Mermaid on November 21, 2015, 08:06:23 AM
I agree with her. But Christianity is absolutely no different in this regard.

you agree that muslims have nothing to do with terrorism... in light of a recent terrorist attack by muslim jihadists.... wtf man?

Shillary clinton does a disservice to everyone avoiding to name the problem just to remain politically correct and keep her voters. The jihadist interpretation of the islamic sacred text is a plausible one so it does have something to do with it, we need to at least recognize that so we can begin propping up a counter extremist narrative that relies on peaceful interpretations of texts and the intellectual destruction of all the interpretations that go against human rights and secularism since the latter ones hold the moral high ground.

There's clearly a problem of islamist terrorism denying that is just stupid and helps no one.

Baruch

The problem with scripture ... is that there is stuff in there that some people don't like.  Or that can be interpreted violently by violent people.  So lets burn all the books and papers and Internet records ... nobody may write anything in any medium unless it is approved by the Pope of Pacifism ... and if you violate his holy dictatorship, he will justifiably kill you.  Sounds like National Socialism to me ;-(  First burn books, then burn people ;-((

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wELrtx8NxoU

Get over speech and writing you don't like.  Don't give a break to anyone who uses speech or writing as an excuse ... an excuse for violence.  Convict them of violence, not reading ... and liquidate their asses for that.  Otherwise something written on the Internet today, will be dug up 1000 years from now, and used to form a violent cult ... because some idiots think that G-d wrote it ;-(

A Canticle for Leibowitz ... https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/a-canticle-for-leibowitz/id1052602357?mt=11
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aitm

It is always preferable to blame a peaceful person for the violent behavior of their great grandparents, while excusing the violence of another because their great grand parents were peaceful.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

mauricio

Quote from: Baruch on November 21, 2015, 03:56:22 PM
The problem with scripture ... is that there is stuff in there that some people don't like.  Or that can be interpreted violently by violent people.  So lets burn all the books and papers and Internet records ... nobody may write anything in any medium unless it is approved by the Pope of Pacifism ... and if you violate his holy dictatorship, he will justifiably kill you.  Sounds like National Socialism to me ;-(  First burn books, then burn people ;-((

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wELrtx8NxoU

Get over speech and writing you don't like.  Don't give a break to anyone who uses speech or writing as an excuse ... an excuse for violence.  Convict them of violence, not reading ... and liquidate their asses for that.  Otherwise something written on the Internet today, will be dug up 1000 years from now, and used to form a violent cult ... because some idiots think that G-d wrote it ;-(

A Canticle for Leibowitz ... https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/a-canticle-for-leibowitz/id1052602357?mt=11

dunno if you were responding to my last post, but i was not calling for the destruction of the texts, rather the intellectual destruction of the violent interpretations of them by showing with arguments their moral, pragmatic and philosophical failures. And also promoting the more peaceful interpretations to prevent the radicalization of the youth. I believe in the free market of ideas so if people want to preach their radical shit they are free to do so but we should not let it go unchallenged, we should respond with reason and honesty not hate and demonization.

Baruch

Mauricio - no not directed against you or anyone in particular.  I just caught a whiff of book burning and thought crime is all.
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