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Started by Ace101, November 18, 2015, 02:15:30 PM

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Munch

Quote from: Solomon Zorn on November 19, 2015, 02:20:54 PM
No. not ALL porn is that innocent. But that point is at least a tangent of the subject. The question of whether Islam advocates genital mutilation, is not a tangent, it's simply off topic.

porn is a direct reflection of humanity itself. Fetish and what turns people on is so varied, the same as peoples interests in movies and games, and yet it can go from very vanilla based sexual content, right the way over to some truly dark and messed up stuff, stuff you'd only find on places like the deep web sold for bitcoin.
Just like people in general, porn has certain rules that when extending beyond what is considered lawful within the spectrum of its genre, if it passes beyond that, it becomes something you wouldn't find in the general places you'd expect, like sex shops or on porn hub.

I consider myself a very moral person when it comes to sex, my fetishes do not extend to things like gore, forced without consent, bodily harm or anyone below a certain age group, like no younger then older teenage years. That said, I will watch videos of bear orgies, men screwing and 'breeding' one another, a lot of leather based stuff with big hairy guy, and loads of other stuff I'm certain people don't want to know about over their breakfast, but just say its all consensual and all are adult men.

Lets also not forget the animated world, I'm both a member of y-gallery and furraffinity, and have gotten artists to drawn some of my characters, like from world of warcraft, doing stuff with my boyfriends characters before.
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

GSOgymrat

I knew porn was big business but this list explains just how big.

https://youtu.be/8AAn09M87PY

peacewithoutgod

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Quote from: GSOgymrat on November 19, 2015, 05:53:44 PM
I knew porn was big business but this list explains just how big.

https://youtu.be/8AAn09M87PY
Interesting is Fact #2 (4:25) "Women watch far less porn than men" This depends on how porn is defined. Men watch a lot more images, and while I'm not saying men are from Mars while women are of a different planet (I'm sure all you women know where you're from), and I could give two shits what twats like Rebecca Watson thinks of that anyway, women tend to consume more books in general, including most of the steamy romance novels. You know what I mean, the cover art features women in Victorian dresses being passionately kissed by some tall, dark and handsome dude, and the titles are always in large script and delicate colors - no man is going to read that crap, because it offends him the way photos of skin offend some women. So then, why isn't that trashy genre which the ladies read while alone for the night lumped in with the porn category?
There are two types of ideas: fact and non-fact. Ideas which are not falsifiable are non-fact, therefore please don't insist your fantasies of supernatural beings are in any way factual.

Doctrine = not to be questioned = not to be proven = not fact. When you declare your doctrine fact, you lie.

Baruch

Quote from: peacewithoutgod on November 19, 2015, 07:03:57 PM
Interesting is Fact #2 (4:25) "Women watch far less porn than men" This depends on how porn is defined. Men watch a lot more images, and while I'm not saying men are from Mars while women are of a different planet (I'm sure all you women know where you're from), and I could give two shits what twats like Rebecca Watson thinks of that anyway, women tend to consume more books in general, including most of the steamy romance novels. You know what I mean, the cover art features women in Victorian dresses being passionately kissed by some tall, dark and handsome dude, and the titles are always in large script and delicate colors - no man is going to read that crap, because it offends him the way photos of skin offend some women. So then, why isn't that trashy genre which the ladies read while alone for the night lumped in with the porn category?

Because in feminism, women are not only equal, but that some people (you know who) are more equal than others.  My mother psychologically, takes after her own grandmother (who lived in the Victorian era) ... and it is clear who runs things in that system ;-)  It isn't Prince Albert ... he can't even get out of the can ;-))

Of course romance novels and telenovelas (Spanish) and soap operas (English) are porn ... but like sweat (women perspire) ... women call it by another name ;-)  I have tried out some romance novels ... just to explore my inner girl.  Of course like in all fiction, the women in romance novels aren't like real women ... but it is interesting to see what women groove on.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Munch

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The sad thing about the fact that male porn stars making less in straight porn then gay porn stars make, means the gay porn industry is unfortunately consisting of a lot of gay4pay actors who aren't really enjoying themselves. It works out fine if they are gay, bi, pan or gay curious, but you can usually tell if the guy is not into it at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg_AOtXpVNE

"Anyone assumes if you do gay porn you have to be gay" Says it all really.
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

peacewithoutgod

Quote from: Munch on November 19, 2015, 08:11:20 PM
The sad thing about the fact that male porn stars making less in straight porn then gay porn stars make, means the gay porn industry is unfortunately consisting of a lot of gay4pay actors who aren't really enjoying themselves. It works out fine if they are gay, bi, pan or gay curious, but you can usually tell if the guy is not into it at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg_AOtXpVNE

"Anyone assumes if you do gay porn you have to be gay" Says it all really.
***Shudders***
This must not have been in any way possible before Viagra!
There are two types of ideas: fact and non-fact. Ideas which are not falsifiable are non-fact, therefore please don't insist your fantasies of supernatural beings are in any way factual.

Doctrine = not to be questioned = not to be proven = not fact. When you declare your doctrine fact, you lie.

Munch

Quote from: peacewithoutgod on November 19, 2015, 08:42:08 PM
***Shudders***
This must not have been in any way possible before Viagra!

I think so. Sure a lot of 'straight' guys could probably tap into their inner bi, but there are a lot of stories of the same, straight guys seeing how bad they get treated in straight porn and finding out about where the money really is, pop a pill before each scene and boom.

I honestly don't find the thought of this attractive, I like to at least imagine the guy topping is enjoying his partner and isn't just there to wing it.
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

hrdlr110

Quote from: The Skeletal Atheist on November 18, 2015, 04:11:36 PM
To be fair, the type of pornography I watch doesn't involve vaginas, but it would be fair to say I don't care for them. As per aesthetic analysis? It's an axe wound mixed with a roast beef sandwich.

Jeezus,  i hope I'm able to block out that mental image the next time I'm down there!  The roast beef sandwich part isn't so bad tho. Don't ruin vaginas for the rest of us will you! And most must smell better than an ass! 😨😘
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doorknob

Porn is fine in it's place. Which is 18 and up and private. I don't need to be bombarded by porn especially when it's not appropriate. I'm all for the sexual revolution but that doesn't mean I want it any less of a dignified thing behind closed doors.

I like porn to a degree but I would never date or stay with a guy who "needs" to watch it. It's a great spice on occasion but I feel that it can be addictive to some and it becomes a problem when you can't even get it up with out  the porn. To me you lack imagination to rely on porn so much.

But yeah nothing wrong with porn now and again. Probably more necessary when alone than attached,. 

SoldierofFortune

apart from amateur section, porn is trade. the producer must make a profit and the customers are the people. but i really don't think the people pay for porn. it's available free on the internet. i am wondering how porn producers earn. i think there is a porn lobby that supprt this kind of things.

peacewithoutgod

Quote from: SoldierofFortune on November 20, 2015, 12:14:40 PM
apart from amateur section, porn is trade. the producer must make a profit and the customers are the people. but i really don't think the people pay for porn. it's available free on the internet. i am wondering how porn producers earn. i think there is a porn lobby that supprt this kind of things.
I have much wondered that myself, having never, ever paid for it, and cannot imagine anyone being gullible enough to shell out when there's so much available free. Maybe somebody here has an answer?
There are two types of ideas: fact and non-fact. Ideas which are not falsifiable are non-fact, therefore please don't insist your fantasies of supernatural beings are in any way factual.

Doctrine = not to be questioned = not to be proven = not fact. When you declare your doctrine fact, you lie.

Munch

Quote from: peacewithoutgod on November 20, 2015, 02:26:37 PM
I have much wondered that myself, having never, ever paid for it, and cannot imagine anyone being gullible enough to shell out when there's so much available free. Maybe somebody here has an answer?

in my early 20s, I use to travel to other towns, or even to london, to visit porn shops to buy movies, magazines and other fun paraphernalia. It always felt like an accomplishment to find some quality movies from such places, stuff you wouldn't find anywhere else. Now, its just there on porn hub and other similar sites, erotic images appear on tumblr daily, and I can order stuff online I might want to use.

Ironically, back then I had that fear of me buying a gay porn movie or magazine if someone else saw me looking, and waited ages to pick one and take a quick look at it before buying, trying to be discrete. Nowadays I'd want into a sex shop and at 34 have no fear of anymore, but since I can buy it online, it rarely happens anyway. 
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

peacewithoutgod

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Quote from: Munch on November 20, 2015, 03:17:48 PM
in my early 20s, I use to travel to other towns, or even to london, to visit porn shops to buy movies, magazines and other fun paraphernalia. It always felt like an accomplishment to find some quality movies from such places, stuff you wouldn't find anywhere else. Now, its just there on porn hub and other similar sites, erotic images appear on tumblr daily, and I can order stuff online I might want to use.

Ironically, back then I had that fear of me buying a gay porn movie or magazine if someone else saw me looking, and waited ages to pick one and take a quick look at it before buying, trying to be discrete. Nowadays I'd want into a sex shop and at 34 have no fear of anymore, but since I can buy it online, it rarely happens anyway.

Yeah, that's why porn profits have exploded, that it can be done privately now. I should have honestly qualified "I never, ever paid for it" with 'since I didn't have to', which seems a lifetime ago now, but boy did I ever feel like a dirty old bastard walking into the porn segment of the local video rental shop, when ratty old theaters still ran porn flicks, and there was nothing available online at all. Under those conditions, it was hard for producers to rake in more than Hollywood, or even close.
There are two types of ideas: fact and non-fact. Ideas which are not falsifiable are non-fact, therefore please don't insist your fantasies of supernatural beings are in any way factual.

Doctrine = not to be questioned = not to be proven = not fact. When you declare your doctrine fact, you lie.

trdsf

Quote from: TomFoolery on November 18, 2015, 04:19:56 PM
Human genitals in general look like an odd afterthought. I'm attracted to men and very often I still think penises look ridiculous. Not saying my vagina is a work of art either. Really, both varieties look like pieces of a modern art installation that no one really gets but everyone thinks is "neat."
Having had both a wife and a boyfriend (serially, not at the same time), I can definitely say that a penis is a lot easier to operate than a vagina.
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Cavebear

I was acdompanying a supervisor to a meeting once, and he stopped at a truly nude club.  I didn't know until we went in.  He was obsessed with nudes.  He pushed right up to the front to stare.

I know what women look like nude up close and I like that just fine.  But in context...

It was the last time I had any respect for him.
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