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Started by Ace101, November 18, 2015, 02:15:30 PM

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aitm

Quote from: Baruch on September 17, 2017, 12:16:27 AM
Hetero sodomy was, and probably remains a birth control method.  And until recently, women were acculturated to not expect for them to even enjoy sex.
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Normally I do not find bragging to be indicative of anything other than lying, but I have had a few women who wanted to enjoy me, far more than one should talk about socially. Of those, I have never met even one who suggested anal. So I am comfortable with my slanted statistics that if anal is indeed popular for women it is far below 1% who are interested in it, which even by statistical standards rates as an abnormality.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Hydra009

Quote from: aitm on September 17, 2017, 08:46:20 PMif anal is indeed popular for women it is far below 1% who are interested in it, which even by statistical standards rates as an abnormality.

Drew_2017

Quote from: Hydra009 on September 17, 2017, 04:39:02 PM
I take it you've never encountered sex negative feminists?

If you don't think the majority of porn is degrading particularly to woman that says more about you than me.
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.
Albert Einstein

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jex6k2uvf9aljrq/theism.rtf?dl=0

Drew_2017

Quote from: Mike Cl on September 17, 2017, 05:01:17 PM
Nothing in particular, I guess. 
Is porn's affect on this society, good or bad (or both)?

I think its bad but not just porn, billions upon billions are spent massaging woman's minds into believing their net worth is more about how they look than their character or accomplishments.
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.
Albert Einstein

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jex6k2uvf9aljrq/theism.rtf?dl=0

Cavebear

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Quote from: Drew_2017 on September 18, 2017, 11:17:56 PM
I think its bad but not just porn, billions upon billions are spent massaging woman's minds into believing their net worth is more about how they look than their character or accomplishments.

What about animated porn?  Does non-people mean porn?
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Mike Cl

Quote from: Drew_2017 on September 18, 2017, 11:17:56 PM
I think its bad but not just porn, billions upon billions are spent massaging woman's minds into believing their net worth is more about how they look than their character or accomplishments.
Basically, I think we agree.  One of the biggest 'battles' I had raising my daughter was combating the TV ads that promoted that idea--that the ideal woman was skinny beyond belief, and that physical looks was paramount for a woman--her intelligence and character were not addressed.  I was constantly talking to TV ads and I did not stop until she left home.

To be picky, I will say this about porn.  It really isn't the porn that is the problem; I don't think porn shapes societies thoughts about sex, but that our societies thoughts about sex are reflected in the porn we watch.  I think that the 'christian' values makes sex seem bad and something to be hidden; that we need to deny our nature, for our nature is inherently bad.  So, sex become the forbidden topic and has to be discovered behind closed doors and in private--it is shameful, when it is only natural.   
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Cavebear

Quote from: Mike Cl on September 19, 2017, 09:54:38 AM
Basically, I think we agree.  One of the biggest 'battles' I had raising my daughter was combating the TV ads that promoted that idea--that the ideal woman was skinny beyond belief, and that physical looks was paramount for a woman--her intelligence and character were not addressed.  I was constantly talking to TV ads and I did not stop until she left home.

To be picky, I will say this about porn.  It really isn't the porn that is the problem; I don't think porn shapes societies thoughts about sex, but that our societies thoughts about sex are reflected in the porn we watch.  I think that the 'christian' values makes sex seem bad and something to be hidden; that we need to deny our nature, for our nature is inherently bad.  So, sex become the forbidden topic and has to be discovered behind closed doors and in private--it is shameful, when it is only natural.

Religion makes sex "wrong".  We would need an experiment to test that.  Oh wait, Europe already has.  Last I noticed, God wasn't throwing lightening bolts on them. 
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Hydra009

Quote from: Drew_2017 on September 18, 2017, 11:10:53 PM
If you don't think the majority of porn is degrading particularly to woman that says more about you than me.
Some is =/= the majority is =/= is inherently

Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on September 19, 2017, 02:37:24 AM
What about animated porn?  Does non-people mean porn?

I prefer sexy stories, no illustrations or pictures or videos.  I have been married ... so I know what a woman looks like.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: Drew_2017 on September 18, 2017, 11:10:53 PM
If you don't think the majority of porn is degrading particularly to woman that says more about you than me.

Men are monsters usually ... what do you expect them to do with women, children, livestock ...
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: Mike Cl on September 17, 2017, 05:16:17 PM
What does your answer have to do with my question??????

If you are in a patriarchy, and are war like, you need lots of sex, and abortion of female infants.  The porn will match this agenda.  See Ancient Greece ... men are so superior to women there, that having sex with your wife is considered degrading.  Better to pass your sperm around maximally, and save your best loving for your gay lover.  Porn is part of narrative control.  So don't push the rope.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Cavebear

Quote from: Baruch on September 19, 2017, 01:39:59 PM
If you are in a patriarchy, and are war like, you need lots of sex, and abortion of female infants.  The porn will match this agenda.  See Ancient Greece ... men are so superior to women there, that having sex with your wife is considered degrading.  Better to pass your sperm around maximally, and save your best loving for your gay lover.  Porn is part of narrative control.  So don't push the rope.

A loud GASP and nothing more...
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Drew_2017

Quote from: Mike Cl on September 19, 2017, 09:54:38 AM
Basically, I think we agree.  One of the biggest 'battles' I had raising my daughter was combating the TV ads that promoted that idea--that the ideal woman was skinny beyond belief, and that physical looks was paramount for a woman--her intelligence and character were not addressed.  I was constantly talking to TV ads and I did not stop until she left home.

To be picky, I will say this about porn.  It really isn't the porn that is the problem; I don't think porn shapes societies thoughts about sex, but that our societies thoughts about sex are reflected in the porn we watch.  I think that the 'christian' values makes sex seem bad and something to be hidden; that we need to deny our nature, for our nature is inherently bad.  So, sex become the forbidden topic and has to be discovered behind closed doors and in private--it is shameful, when it is only natural.

Interesting enough my daughter is a deaf mute and wasn't nearly as influenced as some young woman and teens are by commercial propaganda.

The Christian teaching I'm familiar with is actually quite liberal in the context of the marriage. ST Paul taught the man's body is for the woman and the woman's for the man and the marriage bed is sanctified. Neither party should deprive each other unless my mutual consent. The admonishments we're primarily about sex prior to marriage and of course adultery. I know some Christians unfortunately think the morality taught by the New Testament applies to everyone even if they don't profess to be Christians!
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.
Albert Einstein

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jex6k2uvf9aljrq/theism.rtf?dl=0

Cavebear

Quote from: Drew_2017 on September 19, 2017, 05:27:16 PM
Interesting enough my daughter is a deaf mute and wasn't nearly as influenced as some young woman and teens are by commercial propaganda.

The Christian teaching I'm familiar with is actually quite liberal in the context of the marriage. ST Paul taught the man's body is for the woman and the woman's for the man and the marriage bed is sanctified. Neither party should deprive each other unless my mutual consent. The admonishments we're primarily about sex prior to marriage and of course adultery. I know some Christians unfortunately think the morality taught by the New Testament applies to everyone even if they don't profess to be Christians!

Wait, you are saying the default decision, by God, is to be able to demand sex?  Did I miss a definition somewhere? 
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Hydra009

Quote from: Drew_2017 on September 19, 2017, 05:27:16 PMST Paul taught the man's body is for the woman and the woman's for the man and the marriage bed is sanctified. Neither party should deprive each other unless my mutual consent.
QuoteA typical porn film depicts woman as nothing more than orifices to be used by men however they wish.
:rrotflmao:

You can't make this stuff up!  Well, you can, but you get the idea.