Author Topic: Porn  (Read 2358 times)

Offline Ace101 (OP)

Porn
« on: November 18, 2015, 02:15:30 PM »
I think even from a secular perspective the subject of porn deserves a mention.

Problem is the well has been poisoned party by prudes (both religious prudes and "secular" prudes such as feminists) who essentially view sex appeal and sexual desire as inherently "shameful" - and social libertarians and nihilists on the other side who think that "freedom" or "individuality" trumps everything else.

But from a balanced position I think the issue deserves discussion - myself overall I dislike porn while not being 100% against it, or at least I dislike overconsumption of porn for the same reason I dislike overconsumption of fast food while not being 100% against eating it in moderation.

Basically I posit that the human condition wasn't meant to be reduced to a consumerist commodity - and trying to reduce "sex" to simply viewing a pair of boobs on a computer screen, rather than a larger dynamic of human interaction is anti-social and psychologically harmful, since to a degree people are and always will be a social animal, and our human condition didn't just get thrown out the window the day the internet and the Ipad was invented.

Offline aitm

Re: Porn
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2015, 03:07:32 PM »
I am not a porn person myself. Never really got into it. Could never understand what would possess a guy to pull out and shoot all over a gals face, that does nothing for me.

 I don't care for wide open gashes of vagina, lordy they ain't pretty to begin with. Haven't been to a strip club in....sheesh 20 years I think,,no thats right the wife and her sister and hubby wanted to go about 5 years ago, I told them it was a bad idea, but off we went...sure enough...30 minutes later the wife whips around at me and screams, "what the hell do you find so exciting about this?"....like I said , bad idea.

The only piece of porn I have found that actually gets me excited is that 7 minute video of Carrie Prejean masturbating, for some reason, I like that. So if someone was to ask me to sign a petition to prevent porn from being banned.......meh.
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Re: Porn
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2015, 03:09:46 PM »

 I don't care for wide open gashes of vagina, lordy they ain't pretty to begin with.
Something we agree on! JP
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Re: Porn
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2015, 03:48:32 PM »
Something we agree on! JP

*ahem* based on what we know of your life, that would be an unfair analysis.

Re: Porn
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2015, 04:11:36 PM »
*ahem* based on what we know of your life, that would be an unfair analysis.

To be fair, the type of pornography I watch doesn't involve vaginas, but it would be fair to say I don't care for them. As per aesthetic analysis? It's an axe wound mixed with a roast beef sandwich.
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Offline TomFoolery

Re: Porn
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2015, 04:19:56 PM »
To be fair, the type of pornography I watch doesn't involve vaginas, but it would be fair to say I don't care for them. As per aesthetic analysis? It's an axe wound mixed with a roast beef sandwich.
Human genitals in general look like an odd afterthought. I'm attracted to men and very often I still think penises look ridiculous. Not saying my vagina is a work of art either. Really, both varieties look like pieces of a modern art installation that no one really gets but everyone thinks is "neat."

Basically I posit that the human condition wasn't meant to be reduced to a consumerist commodity - and trying to reduce "sex" to simply viewing a pair of boobs on a computer screen, rather than a larger dynamic of human interaction is anti-social and psychologically harmful, since to a degree people are and always will be a social animal, and our human condition didn't just get thrown out the window the day the internet and the Ipad was invented.

But hasn't the Internet itself diminished a lot of the dynamic of human interaction?

That aside, porn is a weird issue. I don't generally condemn or judge legal sex workers. Everyone has to make a living and as long as it's consensual it's not my business.

I do feel uncomfortable knowing that a lot of exploitation goes on in the legal porn industry, particularly of 18-20 year old girls, but let's be honest, there are lots of industries that prey on barely legal teens who may not understand the repercussions of signing away their lives in contracts. Credit card companies, student loan lenders, and even college football teams have all been guilty of doing the same. The documentary on Netflix called Hot Girls Wanted opened my eyes to a lot. For one, I had no idea people liked watching videos of forced blowjobs, so now I know that there's no such thing as "genre doesn't exist."

Now, the illegal sex industry is a whole other beast, so I assume this topic was mainly focused on legal pornography.
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Re: Porn
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2015, 04:21:44 PM »
As you can probably tell from my avatar, my past posts and description of interests, porn is a strong part of what I like. I view sex and the media around it the same way I view movies and tv shows and comics, all as part of something now, and it doesn't matter how much someone wants to try and repress its place in modern day western culture, its here to stay the same as music, movies and gaming is.

However I'm not immoral and am protective of innocence, I believe strongly in protecting children from such things until they are old enough to understand it, the same as I would be exposing a child to a horror movie, I believe when it comes to sex just teaching them the basics of how people interact bit by bit is how it should go, and when all people come of the age when they can decide if they want to be exposed to sexual content or not, thats up to them.

For me, I love porn, gay porn, and sometimes even straight if the guy is hot, I love seeing naked big men doing sexual things, but also seeing things like animations, drawings, CGI mods for games. I have a list of my favorite gay porn stars and I love their performances the same as I love a movie stars performance.

Porn is just part of the platter of things I enjoy, and its not the sum of all things, but it is part of it. And fuck anyone who tells me they don't want porn on the internet or sold online or in adult shops, I don't want crosses and religious symbolism on the walls of buildings in places I go to, since I find the stories in the bible more harmful, dangerous and mentality distorting them anything a porn magazine could show. 

Re: Porn
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2015, 04:43:26 PM »
porn is degeneracy!!




Re: Porn
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2015, 04:43:46 PM »
Basically I posit that the human condition wasn't meant to be reduced to a consumerist commodity - and trying to reduce "sex" to simply viewing a pair of boobs on a computer screen, rather than a larger dynamic of human interaction is anti-social and psychologically harmful, since to a degree people are and always will be a social animal, and our human condition didn't just get thrown out the window the day the internet and the Ipad was invented.

Porn isn't always commercial. There are many people who post naked self pictures, erotic fiction or art with no expectation of financial reimbursement. Is selling porn the issue, similar to prostitution versus having sex for free?

As far as porn and human interaction, is there difference between masturbating alone with porn or without porn? Neither involves human interaction. If human interaction is the goal, is masturbation the real obstacle?

Re: Porn
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2015, 04:53:28 PM »
As you can probably tell from my avatar, my past posts and description of interests, porn is a strong part of what I like. I view sex and the media around it the same way I view movies and tv shows and comics, all as part of something now, and it doesn't matter how much someone wants to try and repress its place in modern day western culture, its here to stay the same as music, movies and gaming is.

However I'm not immoral and am protective of innocence, I believe strongly in protecting children from such things until they are old enough to understand it, the same as I would be exposing a child to a horror movie, I believe when it comes to sex just teaching them the basics of how people interact bit by bit is how it should go, and when all people come of the age when they can decide if they want to be exposed to sexual content or not, thats up to them.

For me, I love porn, gay porn, and sometimes even straight if the guy is hot, I love seeing naked big men doing sexual things, but also seeing things like animations, drawings, CGI mods for games. I have a list of my favorite gay porn stars and I love their performances the same as I love a movie stars performance.

Porn is just part of the platter of things I enjoy, and its not the sum of all things, but it is part of it. And fuck anyone who tells me they don't want porn on the internet or sold online or in adult shops, I don't want crosses and religious symbolism on the walls of buildings in places I go to, since I find the stories in the bible more harmful, dangerous and mentality distorting them anything a porn magazine could show. 

good you are proper degenerate....

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Re: Porn
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2015, 05:54:19 PM »
good you are proper degenerate....

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Offline TomFoolery

Re: Porn
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2015, 05:56:53 PM »
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Now all I can think about is Justin Timberlake and Andy Samberg.
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Re: Porn
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2015, 06:02:28 PM »
porn is degeneracy!!

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According to /pol/ so is animu. Degenerate.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Porn
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2015, 07:31:09 PM »
Anime started in Japan for adults, not children ... and it involved adult topics like sex and suicide.  But pictures don't do anything for me, I have been married, there are no more mysteries ;-)  Tokyo Godfathers ...



What still interests me is pornographic fiction.  What can I say, I am a compulsive reader.

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Re: Porn
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2015, 07:35:06 PM »

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