The Next Battle: Religious Hospitals Right To Deny Procedures

[Solitary]

When I was way back about to get married to my Catholic wife, I agreed to go to Pre-Cana conference I was told by a doctor there when asked if a woman was found to have lung cancer and was pregnant, would you allow her to be treated for it which will abort the baby, or let her dies from cancer? He said it never happens, we are done here and left the room. Well it did happen, and I worked in Silver Cross hospital and saw it done where the woman succumbed to cancer while everyone was thrilled when they were able to save the child. Back then, there was no patient rights in a hospital, there is now, and any hospital that takes government money has to provide and go by government guidelines. Personal rights supersede religious rights in a secular society, as it should be.

[peacewithoutgod]

When I was way back about to get married to my Catholic wife, I agreed to go to Pre-Cana conference I was told by a doctor there when asked if a woman was found to have lung cancer and was pregnant, would you allow her to be treated for it which will abort the baby, or let her dies from cancer? He said it never happens, we are done here and left the room. Well it did happen, and I worked in Silver Cross hospital and saw it done where the woman succumbed to cancer while everyone was thrilled when they were able to save the child. Back then, there was no patient rights in a hospital, there is now, and any hospital that takes government money has to provide and go by government guidelines. Personal rights supersede religious rights in a secular society, as it should be.

The whole of this nonsense with organizations, including corporations being counted as a "person" needs to be strung up from a tree limb and strangled slowly, until it turns blue in the face, the black tongue protrudes, and there's a permanent erection - well f***, if you can't do this with such Catholic hospitals, then they ain't no persons with any personal rights!

[Solitary]

It seems like almost all religions now are more concerned with death rather than life, religious dogma rather that common sense and compassion.

[CrucifyCindy]

It seems like almost all religions now are more concerned with death rather than life, religious dogma rather that common sense and compassion.

Well that is what religions and belief systems are about. The Denial of Death. Great book by the way...google it and if given the chance read it.

[hrdlr110]

  It amazes me, the Catholic church has all these policies to encourage people to have more and more kids, and yet they also celebrate celibacy within the church for it's clergy and nuns.

I'd say they are well balanced then.  If you're extreme for one group,  extreme in the other direction is then required for the next group. Zen!

[Solitary]

Well that is what religions and belief systems are about. The Denial of Death. Great book by the way...google it and if given the chance read it.

Thank you, I have read it.

[CrucifyCindy]

Thank you, I have read it.

It is a classic. it should be required reading to all children in public schools.

[CrucifyCindy]

Fuck libertarianism! You can either live in a country where the government guarantees your rights

That is so naive. I don't know whether I should laugh at it or cry about it. Let us talk about the real world.

[stromboli]

That is so naive. I don't know whether I should laugh at it or cry about it. Let us talk about the real world.

We have had long winded debates about libertarianism. Ended up pretty much everyone thinking the way they started out.

[josephpalazzo]

It seems like almost all religions now are more concerned with death rather than life, religious dogma rather that common sense and compassion.

Ha, religion is all about control and discipline. The compassion is used as a façade to get new recruits or a diplomatic ploy to look proper in the eyes of gullible and naïve people.

[Baruch]

Josephpalazzo ... now who is being cynical?  And here on this string, you are making the point I am making on the other string.  Quantum string entanglement perhaps? ;-)

[Mike Cl]

Josephpalazzo ... now who is being cynical?  And here on this string, you are making the point I am making on the other string.  Quantum string entanglement perhaps? ;-)

No, not being cynical at all.  In fact, as I see it, he is being too nice.  ALL Christian leaders have had political power and money at the heart of their 'belief'--period.  The leaders I speak of are those at the top of the religious food chain, not the typical lower level priest or minister--I've met several that were good people--at least as far as I could tell.