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Does Privilege Matter?

Started by dtq123, July 22, 2015, 04:52:19 PM

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dtq123

A dark cloud looms over.
Festive cheer does not help much.
What is this, "Justice?"

Baruch

https://www.insidehighered.com/views/2015/07/22/review-naomi-zack-white-privilege-and-black-rights-injustice-us-police-racial

It is very hard for people mired in a mud wrestling context to speak meaningfully about cleanliness.

The idea of White privilege is in a particular political context.  Without that context, it can't exist.  In that context, we are talking about propaganda and policy rather than some Enlightenment meme that didn't even apply to most people in America at the start, or since then.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Gawdzilla Sama

We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

AllPurposeAtheist

The video is full of shit to assume that inmates in prison are as free as say...Prince George to determine their own lives and destiny. Sure George has extreme privilege, but it comes at a steep price. An inmate locked up in a prison in Guatemala hardly has the same chance of even living another day much less determine his destiny.
All hail my new signature!

Admit it. You're secretly green with envy.

Baruch

Every human being is trapped in a cage of nature's making, society's making, and their own making.  Some cages are better than others, but a cage is a cage.  I have never wanted great wealth, power or fame just for this reason (not that there is any danger in that).  I don't think a gilded cage would be much fun, on the contrary it would be a kind of irony.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Sal1981

Privilege is only about pointing out facticity

Green Bottle

Privilege is only important to people who think they are privileged.
God doesnt exist, but if he did id tell him to ''Fuck Off''

Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: Green Bottle on July 23, 2015, 11:43:20 AM
Privilege is only important to people who think they are privileged.
Or jealous/angry/envious of those whom they think have MORE privilege.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Baruch

Sal1981 ... which one?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facticity

The opposite is "falsity" ... which I think more accurately characterizes things.  Either "legend in your own mind" or "legend in someone else's mind".
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Sal1981

Quote from: Baruch on July 23, 2015, 06:55:42 PM
Sal1981 ... which one?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facticity

The opposite is "falsity" ... which I think more accurately characterizes things.  Either "legend in your own mind" or "legend in someone else's mind".
Foremost the cards one is dealt in life. Secondly, the provisional control one has on their environment.

drunkenshoe

Quote from: Green Bottle on July 23, 2015, 11:43:20 AM
Privilege is only important to people who think they are privileged.

Said the white man living in the UK. :lol:











"science is not about building a body of known 'facts'. ıt is a method for asking awkward questions and subjecting them to a reality-check, thus avoiding the human tendency to believe whatever makes us feel good." - tp

Draconic Aiur

im white have no privilege here in south texas

Baruch

Draconic Aiur ... you can always fix that by marrying a Mexican (aka someone of Native American ancestry from MesoAmerica) ;-)
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Mermaid

Quote from: Green Bottle on July 23, 2015, 11:43:20 AM
Privilege is only important to people who think they are privileged.
Well, I....


what?
A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life’s realities â€" all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. -TR

Mermaid

Quote from: Draconic Aiur on July 24, 2015, 04:54:13 AM
im white have no privilege here in south texas
People quite often fail to see their privilege. That's kind of the point.
A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life’s realities â€" all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. -TR