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Antibiotic resistance and our deportation to Victorian times
« on: March 11, 2013, 10:40:10 AM »
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Re: Antibiotic resistance and our deportation to Victorian t
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2013, 11:33:30 AM »
Looks like I made a good choice getting into bacteriophage therapy!
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2013, 12:32:23 PM »
If only those creationists were right, we wouldn't have to worry about bacteria evolving so much.
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Offline Colanth

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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2013, 10:06:56 PM »
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If only those creationists were right, we wouldn't have to worry about bacteria evolving so much.
They're not evolving, they're still bacteria.  (And a fish laying an egg that hatched into a man would still just be an animal producing an animal.)
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Offline Seabear

Re: Antibiotic resistance and our deportation to Victorian t
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2013, 10:29:40 PM »
Hope ur kidding...
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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2013, 11:01:24 PM »
Quote from: "Colanth"
Quote from: "NitzWalsh"
If only those creationists were right, we wouldn't have to worry about bacteria evolving so much.
They're not evolving, they're still bacteria.  (And a fish laying an egg that hatched into a man would still just be an animal producing an animal.)

Edit: Looool. I took that seriously at first. xD Don't mind me.
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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2013, 06:01:28 AM »
Quote from: "GurrenLagann"
Quote from: "Colanth"
Quote from: "NitzWalsh"
If only those creationists were right, we wouldn't have to worry about bacteria evolving so much.
They're not evolving, they're still bacteria.  (And a fish laying an egg that hatched into a man would still just be an animal producing an animal.)

Edit: Looool. I took that seriously at first. xD Don't mind me.

Haha, yeah, I'm glad I'm still awake enough to realize Colanth was joking.
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Offline SGOS

Re: Antibiotic resistance and our deportation to Victorian t
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2013, 06:47:27 AM »
Quote from: "Fidel_Castronaut"
When people talk about real imminent threats to our way of life, I think this could accurately fit into that catagory. A big problem, as mentioned, is the availability of over the counter antibioitics throughout the world, notably in states like Saudi Arabia and India (but not exclusive), where people take them for illnesses that cannot be treated by them, or are using theme ineffectively and without proper prescription and oversight. Ask people whether they take antibioitics when they have the flu, and I've no doubt at least 50% would say 'yes' or think that's how antibioitics work.
Even in the US, just tell your doctor you are convinced that antibiotics will cure your cold, and you can get a prescription.  Doctors know better of course, but false beliefs about antibiotics are so widely held that doctors know they will lose the patronage of a large portion of the potential client base if they don't comply with such popular opinions.  Not all doctors, but finding the right one isn't much harder than shopping for your correct shoe size.

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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2013, 07:46:17 AM »
When people start dying in droves she will get funding, but not until then.

Offline The Skeletal Atheist

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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2013, 02:49:25 PM »
If we're getting back the fatality of diseases from Victorian times can we at least get back some of the more awesome and stupidly dangerous medical devices as well?

This nifty thing was used to take out tonsils.
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« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2013, 03:32:58 PM »
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I have watched this on news. It's indeed bad.

And also it is always baffling to me to see people jumping on antibiotics when they get a runny nose for two days.

Lack of education/stupidity/mixture of both?
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If we're getting back the fatality of diseases from Victorian times can we at least get back some of the more awesome and stupidly dangerous medical devices as well?
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This nifty thing was used to take out tonsils.

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Offline Mermaid

Re: Antibiotic resistance and our deportation to Victorian t
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2013, 08:37:34 PM »
Quote from: "Agramon"
Looks like I made a good choice getting into bacteriophage therapy!
Looks like.
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« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2013, 08:38:32 PM »
Quote from: "Colanth"
Quote from: "NitzWalsh"
If only those creationists were right, we wouldn't have to worry about bacteria evolving so much.
They're not evolving, they're still bacteria.  (And a fish laying an egg that hatched into a man would still just be an animal producing an animal.)
um. What?
We are tied to the ocean. And when we go back to the sea, whether it is to sail or to watch - we are going back from whence we came.

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« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2013, 08:39:27 PM »
I gave blood today therefore I am stupid. That is my excuse and I am sticking to it.
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« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2013, 09:39:42 PM »
Quote from: "Mermaid"
Quote from: "Colanth"
Quote from: "NitzWalsh"
If only those creationists were right, we wouldn't have to worry about bacteria evolving so much.
They're not evolving, they're still bacteria.  (And a fish laying an egg that hatched into a man would still just be an animal producing an animal.)
um. What?
You've never read the Luddite view of evolution?  A bacterium that dies on contact with penicillin changing into one that consumes penicillin is just a bacterium changing its food, it's not evolution.  They're not aware that the claddistic level of "bacteria" is the same as the claddistic level of "animal".
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