Rate the latest movie you've seen.

[Baruch]

Finally got back to live theater after years and years.  Picasso at the Lapin Agile ... a comedy by Steve Martin.  So much better than any movie.

[Munch]

I miss the theatre too, last I saw was the woman in black. A much more entertaining experience then any movie

[SGOS]

I quit comics when I discovered scifi.

I grew up thinking Little Lulu and Donald Duck were the comics.  There were also the superheroes which were more real, but I wasn't allowed to read those, and I never bothered to look into them, even when I was older and had more freedom.  OK, I opened them up and looked inside those comics, even when they were off limits.  I did wonder why they were considered "comics" when there was nothing comical about them.  I should think Marvel would have come up with another more appropriate and descriptive name for that art form.  But instead they just remained misnamed, "the comics" (IMO) until they because socially recognized as "comics", and now everyone calls them the comic books.  But it still befuddles me.  Whatever. 

Marvel Comics, and to a lesser extent, DC Comics, have sure tapped into a part of the theater goers neural networks.  They have turned what was just another interesting genre into something that is revitalizing the whole film industry, pushing the projects to greater limits, attracting movie stars who are standing in line to audition, and teams of highly skilled technical types.  Have you noticed how long the credits last in a Marvel movie?  They can take 15 minutes to watch.  I don't know if they are simply giving credit to the overlooked "nobodies" on the industry's low end of the pay scale that were never previously acknowledged, or are the thousand or so people named in the credits actually highly skilled contributors to the movie.  It does give the impression that making superhero movies requires a grand scale, and producers with deep pockets who are willing to take big risks to fund these projects.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

The scroll is long because there are more "artists" involved. The industry rules require them to be named.

Are you familiar with Allen Smithee?

[SGOS]

The scroll is long because there are more "artists" involved. The industry rules require them to be named.

Are you familiar with Allen Smithee?

I wasn't, but I just looked him up.  It reminds me of the 555 telephone exchange used in TV and film.

[Shiranu]

IT

Fuck yes/Fuck yes.

[Cavebear]

I wasn't, but I just looked him up.  It reminds me of the 555 telephone exchange used in TV and film.

The credits are idiotically long only because they outsource so much of the graphic production.  Seriously do I care whether some company produced a 3 second shot of Thor's hammer up close?  Of course not.

The saving grace is that the cable company speeds up the credits so fast you can't read anything in them anyway.  And even if they slowed it down to a possible reading speed, I'm channel-flipping anyway.

If I had a job in a movie, I would want money in place of the credit list.  My resume would have it and I would have some money.

[Munch]

gonna go see IT in a few hours.

[Cavebear]

gonna go see IT in a few hours.

An insult to clowns.  The reviews are terrible.  Enjoy the popcorn...

[SGOS]

An insult to clowns.  The reviews are terrible.  Enjoy the popcorn...

85% at Rotten Tomatoes.  You might be thinking of another movie.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/it_2017

I'm going to the movies today also, but I'll see either Wind River or Mother.

[Cavebear]

85% at Rotten Tomatoes.  You might be thinking of another movie.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/it_2017

I'm going to the movies today also, but I'll see either Wind River or Mother.

Well, OBVIOUSLY rotten tomatoes is wrong, LOL!

[Munch]

Got my ticket and going in, bwaa haw haw, can't stop me now!

[Cavebear]

Got my ticket and going in, bwaa haw haw, can't stop me now!

Hey what ever rocks your boat...  Some of my favorite movies were panned and some I gagged on are considered "great".

[SGOS]

Wind River  6/10
It kept my interest.

[Munch]

Back. That was fun, the movie was a lot of fun, the thing that sort of left a red cloud over my head though were the two nod head guys two rows back whispering loudly thoughout the movie, and raising their whisper levels higher when the volume got higher, because everyone who paid to see the movie so wanted a idiots commentary throughout. Seriously, they need a law in place to shut up in cinema, if your meant to turn off your phone in the cinema, you should shut your mouth too for it.

Anyway, I really enjoyed this one. 8/10.

I broke this into two halves, first part is my thoughts on the original tv movie, the second parts about the new film.

The thing with IT, is how much of an impact its had on me for years now. I never read the book, and likely never will, just based on the size of the thing, and from what I gather from reviews King bloat a lot of the story with more details then is really needed for a story. Sure its his original, but when you've had a preconceived idea of a story for so long, namely the Tim Curry tv adaptation, then reading the book now might change my perception of a few things, and I kinda don't want that.

I saw the original tv movie when I was 11, forced to watch it when my brother got a vhs copy from a friend and made me watch it when I slept on the floor of his bedroom when my grandmother came to visit, he did that a lot, and it probably why I love horror movies so much now. But for all the stuff I saw back then, for me the IT tv movie had the most impact, mostly because of Tim Curry's role, but also the child actors in the first part were pretty dam good too, and even today I will like that first half due to those roles.

What I liked about Tim Curry's version, is how he subverted expectations so much. He posed as a happy smiling clown on screen, and as the kid, I had that preconceived idea of clowns being nice and friendly, this being back in the late 1980s well before the times of which clowns became creatures of fear they are today. So going in as a kid then, seeing tim curry being all smiling and friendly one scene surprised me.

Only for that expectation to be shattered when he did something terrifying.

As a kid, even though I was told it was a horror, I wasn't expecting something like that, and it left its mark on me about subverting expectations, and maybe even introduced me to the idea of the uncanny valley, that something that seems unnatural can lead to that kind of fear and expectation. 

Anyway thats the original series, seeing that as a kid and seeing it now, I can see a lot of the faults and cringeworthy moments in it, but I still think the child actors in the tv series and Tim Curry still hold up today.


This new version however is something both similar and different, but still delivers.

Bill SkarsgÃ¥rd as Pennywise is pretty fantastic, but he plays a very different kind of character. Its kind of like comparing Christopher Reeve's superman to Henry Cavill's superman, both are great performances, but are both unique in their execution. SkarsgÃ¥rd goes full on creepy with Pennywise here, unlike Tim Curry, he doesn't subvert your expectations, he simply is a creepy as hell clown like from old times, and in a way that works. The problem with the original I suppose is once you knew how evil Tim Curry's pennywise was, the charm of the soft smiling clown is already lost in the first scene. Here, SkarsgÃ¥rd  gives that uncanny performance, along with the special effects and makeup, the small details like the cracked face paint and his expressions are the stuff of nightmares.

The kid performers in this are awesome, infact I'd say better then the original, maybe a couple cringe moments here and there but overall they delivered their roles blood well, and you ended up feeling for the characters and all the shit they go though. And unlike in the original, the adult actors were pretty good too.

the camerawork, the lighting, the sound and music, all of it was awesome. The actual horror elements in it were pretty good too, when it comes to horror, if you do nothing but cheap jump scares, you deflate the audience and it makes the experience kinda shallow. This movie built up expectations, and their were no cheap jump scares, they were all delivered well, including one that even made me jump (the two idiots rows back saying it almost made them wet themselves).

The thing with any adaptation is the director is taking a property, breaking it down, and putting it back together in how he thinks it should be seen. There is no way you can adapt kings original book of this story, its to big. So for what he did with it, the director, Andy Muschietti, did a fantastic job of trimming so much fat from the story and only leaving in the important stuff, or making it a better cinematic experience.

So worth it, if you've ever seen the tv movie or read the book, or even if not, this is worth a look.

I do have just a couple nit-picks, but it didn't take anything out of the movie, so spoilers.

In it at the start we see pennywise luring georgie in, and biting off his arm, before pulling him into the sewers. This was pretty graphic compared to the tv movie as it was only implied back then. Seeing this raises some questions, if pennywise/IT is a manifestation, or a physical entity that can effect the physical world, a shape shifter, which I often assumed was a non-corporeal entity, but this one pretty much comfirms IT is a shapeshifter and not just a physic image.

So he eats children who are afraid because fear tastes so much sweeter to him, but then at the end of the movie we see the bodies of dozens of missing children floating in IT's lair, since we see him using his deadlights on Beverly Marsh, making her float in the air in a comatose state. Does this mean the other children floating in his lair are also in a comatose state, are they dead, why hasn't he consumed them, were none of all those children afraid of him so he did the same to all of them as he did Beverly? We know he ate Georgie because all they found of him in the end was his raincoat.

Thats really my only nit-pick actually, but it didn't take me out of the movie at all.

Sorry for the long review, just like putting my mind about movies down somewhere.