Anyone Seen The Documentary "The God Who Wasn't There" ?

Started by Warhorse, March 09, 2013, 11:22:31 AM

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Warhorse

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Quote from: "Warhorse"Faux parallels? And what makes you say that? What makes you think it's fake? It's usually the religious folks that make those claims. I'm not used to hearing that from an Atheist. Really bad sources that just kinda make things up? I'm very curious why you would say that? What is your proof that their facts are "just plain wrong?" And which facts were supposedly "plain wrong?" Please tell me. Also, thank you for taking the time to respond to this thread. I really appreciate it.
Sorry, but I simply don't care enough about this topic to debate the issue. It's been years since I've seen the movie and years since I cared about whether or not there was a historical Jesus. There's plenty of stuff on the intertubes for you to read if you care about learning more.

Google "The God Who Wasn't There Carrier" and you'll get a blog post from Carrier on his impression of the movie along with a PDF white paper laying out some of his critiques of the film.

In Carrier's blog post you'll see a link to some debunking of Zeitgeist's parallels arguments which come up constantly in the atheist community. The God Who Wasn't There is pretty sloppy, but Zeitgiest is where the arguments start getting really shitty.

Some of the "evidence" for the parallels can be traced back to an old book by Kersey Graves called "The World's Sixteen Crucified Saviors" - and traced back no further because the guy seems to have just made stuff up. Google around this to learn more from that angle.

Yes, I'm an atheist, and a strong atheist at that. But I'm an atheist because I'm a rationalist. I'm not rational because I'm an atheist. And there are lots of bad arguments and manufactured facts out there for atheism.

If you want decent Jesus myth arguments, Earl Dougherty's The Jesus Puzzle is a decent place to start. I don't find it convincing at the end of the day, but it is pretty rigorous and doesn't make shit up.

It wasn't a debate. I simply asked you a couple questions. That's all. Geez...

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Quote from: "Warhorse"For those of you who have not seen The God Who Wasn't There, I highly recommend it. The film focuses on Christianity's early days and how it spread. More importantly, the filmmaker interviews Christians, and we see just how little they actually know about their own religion. They seem blissfully unaware.

My hope is for those who have seen this film to tell me what they thought of it, and for those who have not seen it, to watch it and join the discussion. I promise you won't be disappointed with this film.

I thought it was great.
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Philosophos

Quote from: "Warhorse"It wasn't a debate. I simply asked you a couple questions. That's all. Geez...
I didn't mean it as snippy. I was just trying to state it matter-of-factly.

But if you delve into the resources and do the searches I suggested, you'll have your answers.
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