Terrorists open fire on "Draw Muhammed" event in Garland, TX

Started by Ace101, May 10, 2015, 02:33:19 PM

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dtq123

A dark cloud looms over.
Festive cheer does not help much.
What is this, "Justice?"

Munch

'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin


pr126

Here is the amended first amendment:

Quote“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press â€" except if someone finds some speech hurtful, controversial, or not helpful.”

source

drunkenshoe

Yeah good video. However, like almost all other 'sceptics', he is talking about what should happen in an IDEAL world, not what has been going on in REALITY. In an ideal world radical muslims would react to that with another cartoon show of their own. But if radical muslims gave that kind of reactions, that cartoon show wouldn't exist. In that fantasy world there wouldn't be radicals of any kind killing people.

Those people do not react to this event that way and claim they think people should respect to this or that religion, because it's some sort of a 'humanist principle' they have. They give that reactions, because it results in death. Fear of disruption of life. Terrorism accomplishes its mission. And that will spread. That will be the public opinion in a few decades. It's not enabling, it's adapting. I'm not discussing that it is 'good' or 'evil'. There is no such thing as 'good' or 'evil'. Yes, killing people is a crime, it is a horrifying thing do FOR ANY REASON.

Like IRA did a few decades ago in England. Like Kurds did in Turkey. And others. They are freedom fighters, they are not? 'So you think I don't count and do whatever you want with me, my land? Let's see what you will think when people starts dropping dead'. Simple as this. Has been since the dawn of human, faaar before Abrahamic religions were even around.

Put 10 children in a room, give 5 of them toys and candy and play with them. Don't give anything to others, take what little they have, treat them badly and advertise to the first roup that they should too. The latter group will attack the other group sooner or later at every opportunity and continue to do that until something in the equation changes. In the real world, the head of the group with toys and candy also played out every fucking scenario in the second kids' sandbox for a long time, killed their friends in masses, invaded their playground for their own purposes. Now, when the second group strikes back at every opportunity with the only available means, you are going to whine and scream your head off 'freeeedom of this', 'freedom of that'.

Yeah, well that's not gonna work out, ya know? Not anywhere, not in any culture. May be, it is time to come down to earth? :lol:   



"science is not about building a body of known 'facts'. ıt is a method for asking awkward questions and subjecting them to a reality-check, thus avoiding the human tendency to believe whatever makes us feel good." - tp

Atheon

"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." - Seneca

Shiranu

Quote from: Atheon on May 14, 2015, 06:28:19 AM
What is it with Garland, anyway? a vortex of weird religious stuff.

Remember this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chen_Tao_(True_Way_Cult)

The North, East and West of Texas take Texas stereotypes to the next level. And thats pretty far up to the North and East.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

drunkenshoe

Trying to read that, it feels like crazy gets on you from the screen.

https://www.freedomofmind.com/Info/infoDet.php?id=368

Chen Tao - True Way Cult

QuoteA few minutes before ten o’clock Hon-Ming Chen came out of his house to meet the crowd. Chen asked all of the people in the crowd to shake their own hand. After most of the audience had complied Chen began to explain the newly revealed theology of “You yourself are Gods.” He declared that God did indeed descend and multiply enough times to shake everyone’s hand. By declaring that everyone has the ability to become gods Chen could also claim that instantly “God” was able to speak all languages.
“The Kingdom of God has descended and God has already changed into human beings… You yourself are God. You are human beings as well as God. This is a chance given to us to play the role of God,” Chen declared in front of media, police and his decimated group of followers. [98] Chen added a warning, “If you think of yourselves as nothing more than a pile of bones and flesh, you are going to die, to perish in the Great Tribulation”. [99]
Chen then gave a demonstration to prove his own godhood. He stared directly into the sun for several moments and then turned to reporters, explaining that a mere mortal would have been blinded. Some reporters seemed less than impressed, one noted that Chen was blinking profusely after the divine demonstration. [100] Through his interpreter, Richard Liu, Chen blamed the mass media for ridiculing him and failing to accurately portray his messages. He told the reporters that they have a divine responsibility to begin accurately broadcasting his message.
Although Hon-Ming Chen apologized for God’s non-appearance on television, at this press conference he said that it was only a minor error and that God had instead declared his intentions in strong winds and unusual cloud patterns. [101]
Throughout the press conference Chen seemed genuinely concerned for the spiritual wellbeing of his audience. He said that to attain salvation in the Great Tribulation we should repent for our sins, stop eating meat and train ourselves to see beyond the third dimension in which most beings live. According to Chen, anyone who eats meat will face retribution from the spiritual world and may be visited in their dreams by animals seeking explanations for their deaths. [102] “If you often eat the buttocks of chicken, you will soon find you have a pain in your ass,” said Chen. [103]
"science is not about building a body of known 'facts'. ıt is a method for asking awkward questions and subjecting them to a reality-check, thus avoiding the human tendency to believe whatever makes us feel good." - tp

Atheon

Quote"If you often eat the buttocks of chicken, you will soon find you have a pain in your ass."
Yup, he's Taiwanese.
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." - Seneca

Cocoa Beware

#39
Quote from: pr126 on May 14, 2015, 12:20:15 AM
Here is the amended first amendment:

source

This is very discouraging news as well:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ottawa-cites-hate-crime-laws-when-asked-about-its-zero-tolerance-for-israel-boycotters-1.3067497?cmp=rss

Some troglodytes here in Canada tried to introduce a law that would make Anti-Zionism a hate crime.

Our PM is a fucking dickhead. Such a clumsy and obvious attempt to chip away at our freedoms.

Blows my mind really, Ive never seen anything like this in our country before.

pr126

Zionist is just another label for a Jew.

An euphemism that is more widely acceptable, when deriding a group of people, but the meaning is the same.

I hate Zionist is OK, but I hate Jews is less so.
How does one distinguish who is a Zionist and who is a Jew?

If you look at the photos, there are the Jew hating Arabs and their fellow travelers.

Tought experiment: what would you say if the object of their hate were Arabs or Muslims?








drunkenshoe

Quote from: pr126 on May 16, 2015, 12:22:18 PM
Tought experiment: what would you say if the object of their hate were Arabs or Muslims?

Only 12 % of muslims are Arabs. There are nearly 2 billions of muslims on the planet.

QuoteHow does one distinguish who is a Zionist and who is a Jew?

How does one distinguish a muslim from an islamic terrorist?

According to you pr, there is no difference.
"science is not about building a body of known 'facts'. ıt is a method for asking awkward questions and subjecting them to a reality-check, thus avoiding the human tendency to believe whatever makes us feel good." - tp

pr126

How do you disguinguis a Muslim from a jihadist? Is there a reliable way to make a decision?
I don't think there is.

I think it is a degree of belief and the knowledge of the Quran.
Most Muslims do not know what their religion is requiring of them. Or just do not care.

Those in ISIS, Taleban, Al shabab, al quaida etc, etc. are the 'True Believers' who know their deen.


Mike Cl

I think what pr is driving at is something like this.  Most christians call the bible the word of god.  Most christians don't think slavery is a moral thing to do and condemn it.  What they chose not to know is that the bible does not condemn it--it condones it.  Most christians chose to follow the word of god that they like and ignore what they don't.  I assume muslims are the same--follow what they want and ignore what they don't.  Such will ignorance simply makes them stupid. All religions follow the same pattern.  What makes christianity  and islam so dangerous, is that both condone acts of violence against those who don't believe or follow the 'rules'.  Most simply chose to ignore those passages, but that does not negate the fact that both religions are exceptionally dangerous.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

drunkenshoe

Quote from: pr126 on May 16, 2015, 01:23:13 PM
How do you disguinguis a Muslim from a jihadist?

With their actions. Like all other people. If what you are so bent on advertising was true, the world would be in ruins a hundred years ago.

QuoteI think it is a degree of belief and the knowledge of the Quran.
Most Muslims do not know what their religion is requiring of them. Or just do not care.

7o % of Jews are staying out of Israel. Do you think they do NOT know what their religion is asking for them? Or care? They are pretty devout.

QuoteThose in ISIS, Taleban, Al shabab, al quaida etc, etc. are the 'True Believers' who know their deen.

Oh yes, they are trying to be better than the US armies thought them to be.


"science is not about building a body of known 'facts'. ıt is a method for asking awkward questions and subjecting them to a reality-check, thus avoiding the human tendency to believe whatever makes us feel good." - tp