I'm Bored, watch this with me

[drunkenshoe]

SmoOff Is it that time of month Penny?

Really Sol? Have I said something you haven't heard before here and so out of reality that I need to be in some physiologically unbalanced situation acording to your definition of 'the time of the month'?

Are you aware how hostile and sexist that response is? A woman is responding to some video who is mocking an idea on the main issue about how her gender is presented and she must be having 'the time of the month' for to be pissed off to that?

This response is enough by itself what kind of a bullshit we have to put up with it. Don't expect any respect from me for your opinions after this.

[Hijiri Byakuren]

To be fair, you need to say something on the subject, something NOT based on the videos of a youtube celebrity, designed to take attention in 5 secs, but something of your own first. Something you probably have thought on the subject before Sarkeesian or Thunderf00t, considering you are not stupid. Of course, you can always act like a 10 year old and call everyone a moron because you hate what she is saying, but you loove your games.

With an attitude like that, it's a small wonder you haven't convinced the entire world with your charm and wit already.

[drunkenshoe]

With an attitude like that, it's a small wonder you haven't convinced the entire world with your charm and wit already.

You are one of the last people here to demand any check on attitude. Start with your post in this thread.

[Hijiri Byakuren]

You are one of the last people here to demand any check on attitude. Start with your post in this thread.

Does that stick make it hard to poop, Penny?

[drunkenshoe]

Does that stick make it hard to poop, Penny?

Really Hijiri? You are telling me that?

When did you last write a contributing response to someone else's OP in this forum that didn't agree with you that is not made of snarky cycnical comments or didn't call someone stupid or a moron? I know most of your posts in the last 2 years.

I am really annoyed with something posted in the OP, esp. because it is the generl opinion here. This thread stayed here empty for 2 days. I objected it and told that I think this is bullshit. I WROTE why. There is not one person -save APA- who wrote something on the subject or what I wrote with what they actually think. Nothing. Just snarky, hostile bullshit.   

And I am the one who has a stick on my butt?

I don't sweety. I poop nicely. I have buttons, but I am pretty much layed back generally for anyone who tries to communicate normally. Surpise! If you are that unaware of your own general reactions in the forum, that is unfortunate.

May be If you tried getting in to some normal converstion, may be the result would be much different. And don't give me the old crap of 'When I first joined here I agreed with you 2 and you put me down bullshit'.

[Mike Cl]

I do not see anything redeeming about those videos.  I see nothing funny, sarcastic, about them.  I must admit, I did not watch the all the way through.  I just couldn't.  I don't like them and hate the attitude.

[Hijiri Byakuren]

May be If you tried getting in to some normal converstion, may be the result would be much different.

I rarely give my full opinion to my own friends, much less to a miserable prat like yourself. I am quite capable of giving a fully fleshed-out argument if I feel the need to. Idiots don't merit the expenditure of brain cells.

I was always taught to live by the phrase, "Pick your hill to die on." It's a saying you would benefit from taking to heart.

[drunkenshoe]

I rarely give my full opinion to my own friends, much less to a miserable prat like yourself. I am quite capable of giving a fully fleshed-out argument if I feel the need to. Idiots don't merit the expenditure of brain cells.

I was always taught to live by the phrase, "Pick your hill to die on." It's a saying you would benefit from taking to heart.

Hijiri, you are not the one to call anyone a 'miserable prat', kiddo. Every post you wrote in this thread includes some sort of a name calling or a snarky remark. You don't definitely have the right to call someone's attitude in check, when yours leaves a lot to desire in the same thread.

I'm not here to choose my battles so I could 'win' and look 'cool'. I'm here to express myself, rant about something I don't like, have a few laughs if I can and state my opinion clearly and explain it if necessary. I really do not care what people think about me contrary to your self and your 6 year old ego. This should have been clear by now.

Oh yeah, it's a very hard job to debate with a christian on god. Congratulations, you are a hero.

Conversation is over.

[Hijiri Byakuren]

Hijiri, you are not the one to call anyone a 'miserable prat', kiddo. Every post you wrote in this thread includes some sort of a name calling or a snarky remark. You don't definitely have the right to call someone's attitude in check, when yours leaves a lot to desire in the same thread.

I'm not here to choose my battles so I could 'win' and look 'cool'. I'm here to express myself, rant about something I don't like, have a few laughs if I can and state my opinion clearly and explain it if necessary. I really do not care what people think about me contrary to your self and your 6 year old ego. This should have been clear by now.

Oh yeah, it's a very hard job to debate with a christian on god. Congratulations, you are a hero.

Conversation is over.

Whatever, Shoe. It's always the same damned sob story with you, and I give about as many shits as I did before you tucked tail and ran from all the folks who didn't put up with your bullshit on your old account. I was going to pretend I didn't know who you were (even though your first post plainly stated it), but you clearly haven't shaped up at all, and I have no desire to waste brain cells on a miserable prat like you. To the ignore list with ye!

[Sal1981]

What fucking bullshit. And the title. "If men acted like feminists."  Aaw. You know what? Forget about equality and women rights, just the way women like Sarkessian and Wattson treated can be taken as the only legitimised source for feminism and it would stand. Has anyone seen the thousands of male comments about these women on the net?

How is that an argument against his sarcastic portrayal of Feminism? Thunderf00t and other critiques get the same bullshit from femdriods just the same, in the thousands. One egalitarian champion of mine, Karen Straughan, is bashed by hundres of femdriods BY THE DAY for speaking up against 3rd wave Feminism.

Yeah, she criticises something most men reeeeally love, doesn't she. She is right about many things. And the crying baby is the people who doesn't want to face something bad about what they enjoy so much, a precious toy they are so happy about. Like gun lovers. [Actually, there is an indirect link between the reaction she gets; what she says on violence and sexism in the media and the general gun issue. That is, people who are against guns and NRA's gun propaganda -every time a shooting happens the way they blame games and media as you know- tend to overlook the real affects of the media bullshit on children or people. Because it is being used by the enemy in a twisted way. No, I am not saying people are killing because of pc games

Then why even bring up the never-ending gun debate? Anita Sarkeesian has demonstrated that she is a con-woman, from her recruitment drive on kickstarter to her trying to raise money for "research equipment".

If people cannot get the fact that entertainment media and show business -including porn- has the main power to fuck shape their perception on gender norms -esp you youngsters/kiddies who grew up with far more bullshit than my generation did- than they are pretty much lost in delusion and denial of something big and real just because they enjoy it very much. You were born into this. We could use the word 'ignorance' here, but we all know it has nothing to do with ignorance, but just 'preeeeecious'.

You don't say, Mrs. Assumption. I didn't see real porn until I was 21 because I moved to Denmark to study and before that it was short clips and pictures on a censured Internet from when we got Internet, which was when I was 15-16. The games I played up on had no discernible features either way, and even at age 5 when I played the first computer game on an Atari 2600, I knew it was just pretend - that's what airheads like Anita Sarkeesian don't get, we're perfectly able to discern fact from fiction, computer games from reality.

Everything on media and culture is blatantly sexist, manipulative and bent on objectfying women to a point of nothingness, but not when it comes to games and movies? You are kidding, right? The backlash against this woman's criticism is practically based on 'I don't see any sexism bitch!' They also remind me the majority of white people, who can never detect any racism anywhere around them for some reason. 

As a man, I see objectioning of men all the fucking time from Calvin Klein commercials to children shows showing men with perfect physique and wad of cash, don't fucking tell me the media and culture does this solely to women.

Yes, you can find the similar material on men -produced in the last decade- however, let's ask some lame questions:

-Who is enjoying sexy women beating up men and women more?  Men.

-Who pays attention to female characters if they are not beating up someone or not looking like just about to have sex? Women and a very little group of men.

-Why the number of violent female characters are increasing? Because nobody is watching normal female characters. Nobody is watching just normal looking female characters ffs. Nobody is writing a script for women over 40 if they are not some compulsory old relatives in the wtory and moms with teens look like just got out of college. Nobody is casting any women over 35 if she doesn't look 25. 

-Wanna get into porn? Let's don't do that.

We are talking about a country where the majority of the  population's idea of entertainment is nothing but watching movies and playing games and talking about them, but it doesn't affect how do they see the world negatively. 

You're so full of shit, I can go cherry-pick a bunch of shit just as easily in the Western media that does the same with men.

[drunkenshoe]

-It's a sarcastic portrayal of feminsim because:

---All those female characters in violent action is designed to meet with a certain type of stereotype male SO PEOPLE WOULD WATCH IT. Because poeple do not watch female characters, esp. men. there is an ever going discussion everywhere around this. Roles written for females are so limited, they finally started to make them act like men some time ago, so it would be watch. Wake up, smell the coffee. 
---They are almost all made in the last decade and a half. And it's a part of a trend. Creating 'powerful' female characters outside romcoms.
---What does "if men acted like feminists" mean? Acting like women who makes vlogs he doesn't agree with? Is his understanding of feminism that shallow?

-If you read my posts I specificaly said that the idea does NOT belong to Sarkeesian. And I wrote about the subject. I personally don't give a fuck who is she. Many points she makes on this specific subject stands.

Neither Thunderf00t nor Karen Straughmen are getting the half bullshit they are giving. They use the word feminist as an insult. Have they ever received any rape or death threats, because of saying their opinion out loud? I  pretty much doubt that.

Karen Straughmen. I am familiar with her arguments. Too bad everything she says only applicable to a very little group of western females in the world. She has good points. But that's what happens when you treat a universal human rights problem like whining of a bunch of spoilt women.   

Having said that, Karen Straughmen, Thunderf00t, Anita Sarkeesian and several others are all internet celebrities who are designing videos to take people's attention in 5 secs by making a controversial statement or a title or cannot get any hit to their material. These issues are the least ones to hold on with that medium and form of expression. It comes down to what pays back to them. It's far less as in good intentions as you think,it is more a click.

-Your personal life experiences, your reaction when you first meet with porn or computer games and what did you think of them is completely irrelevent to the point.

-If you are going to try to defend that men are getting as much as objectfied as women, it is going to be fun to watch. It's bullshit. There is no need to pick cherries on this.

And your example is Calvin Klein commercials?!  You are aware that men can work half naked in their garden, jog and walk around half naked and also it's their regular swimsuit right? A woman can't do any of that. It's illegal almost everywhere around the world. Why? Because female breasts are something belongs to a man. A woman is ALWAYS MORE NAKED THAN A man.

You're so full of shit, I can go cherry-pick a bunch of shit just as easily in the Western media that does the same with men.

Adjust your tone and check your language, Sal. You are neither provoked nor targeted.

[doorknob]

ok I'm bored but I'm not bored enough to watch that sorry.

[dtq123]

You are aware that men can work half naked in their garden, jog and walk around half naked and also it's their regular swimsuit right? A woman can't do any of that. It's illegal almost everywhere around the world. Why? Because female breasts are something belongs to a man. A woman is ALWAYS MORE NAKED THAN A man.

I hope you don't mind me asking, why do some iconic (and some not iconic) feminists prefer women to be chaste instead of allowing themselves show their sexuality?

Is it not better to reveal yourself as you desire? (At least in a more accepting and less sexual world?)
I don't see anything wrong with breasts in the open, nor am I aroused by such a thing in such a context.

[drunkenshoe]

I don't understand the purpose of generlisation and the relationship between a person's private life and her being feminist. Yes. Feminism is first about women being anything they want without feeling obliged to fit any role or norm imposed upon them.

Women are not just criticised and labeled according to what they wear and how they live their sex life, it is seen as their worth. There is no way out. You are either a slut or a prude or boring or a whore. It could be that some women shaped to avoid that constant backlash. But again there is no way to attach people's private sex lives to what they defend.

It's the negative feminist stereotype under fire from both religious and secular understanding with unbelievable bullshit. Feminists are ugly, frigid women who can't have an orgasm. Or they are lesbians. Most importantly they are natural manhaters of course. That old bullshit male speech. "You are a feminist? Why don't you burn your bra and sleep around then".

For example there is another bullshit that if a woman is a feminst she shouldn't wear revealing clothes, because that supports objectifying women you see.

I amnot counting 'anger' among negative aspects of feminists, because I don't see it as something abnormal or out of place. If you are not angry enough about something that would push you to fight with it and change it, usually there isn't really anything wrong and you are comfortable-content. Also because of this feminists are also defined as women 'victimising' themselves. It's a disgusting type of backlash. (But then in a heated rape discussion with most men, sooner or later somebody will ask 'are you raped?' It happened a few times to me in the forum. Once I was also thought to be a transgender because I was loud and pissed off on how they are treated.) See, so what you are defeding and how you are living your life or what happened to you is don't have direct links most of the time. One of the greatest reasons feminists are hated because they are angry women. (They shout, they get obnoxious, they are frustrated, nervous; they are human) They are also like nonewhite people or any other group of people in a society, but with one diference: they are not a minority. Women are half the population.