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Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief
« on: April 10, 2015, 10:33:43 AM »
Going Clear:  Scientology and the Prison of Belief is an HBO documentary that features former members of the Church of Scientology.  I highly recommend this to anyone who wants to learn more about this cult.  I knew a little about scientology.  I knew it was created by L Ron Hubbard and that it it's members included Tom Cruise and John Travolta.  But I had no idea how pervasive the brainwashing techniques are and how abusive it is to its members.  It is a classic example of how religions are born and how they use psychological methods to indoctrinate and retain their members.  It also shows how the "Church" uses its non-profit, tax exempt religious entity designation as a buffer to attacks from enemies and critics.  If you get the chance, watch it.  If you have seen it I would love to hear what you think.

http://www.vulture.com/2015/01/sundance-going-clear-is-a-jaw-dropping-expos.html
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/going_clear_scientology_and_the_prison_of_belief_2015/
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/07/entertainment/john-travolta-scientology-going-clear-feat/
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Re: Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2015, 04:54:42 PM »
Yeah, Scientology is a business, and a shitty, voracious one at that.  A couple of friends of mine were involved 15 years ago. Both had plenty of money when they joined and didn't have a pot to piss in by the time they left.

 I shall watch this. Thanks for the heads-up!  :smiley:

Offline SGOS

Re: Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2015, 06:08:12 PM »
As we speak, I'm reading the book that the documentary was based on.  I just started it a day ago.

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Re: Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2015, 07:31:17 PM »
As we speak, I'm reading the book that the documentary was based on.  I just started it a day ago.
You'll find the author goes out of his way not to condemn L Ron Hubbard or Scientology, which makes some the things you read all the more damning. If anything, Wright was much more respectful than I would have been in his place.
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Re: Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2015, 10:21:46 PM »
I don't have HBO, where can I find this?  It sounds interesting.  I'd try and find the book instead, but my to-read list has gotten out of hand lately, lol.
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Offline SGOS

Re: Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2015, 08:16:33 AM »
I don't have HBO, where can I find this?  It sounds interesting.  I'd try and find the book instead, but my to-read list has gotten out of hand lately, lol.
The book is a best seller, and was before HBO.  So far it's been a good read.  Lots of fun stuff that will make you roll your eyes.  From early in life, while Hubbard did have talent, he was a compulsive liar.  He had a list of war hero stories that are totally contradicted by his military records.  Nothing he said was worth believing.  He was definitely meant to start a new religion.  It was in his bones.  If I had HBO, I probably would not have bought the book, but I'm in a reading mood lately.

Offline Green Bottle

Re: Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2015, 11:09:28 AM »
I dont have HBO either but ill try and get the book, an here's a good site for documentaries you all may or may not know about...

http://documentarystorm.com/

A couple of Scientology documentaries on here...
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Re: Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2015, 02:14:54 PM »
An ex-scientology member called Jon Atack wrote a bloody good book on the scam cult called A Piece Of Blue Sky. It used to be rarer than rocking-horse-shit due to never ending litigation by the scientologists.  Not sure if that's still the case.... 

Offline Atheon

Re: Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2015, 02:07:11 PM »
Hubbard spent his entire life telling fictional tales.
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Offline Solitary

Re: Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2015, 03:01:42 PM »
This is one reason I don't like psychologists or psychiatrist that think we have a mind that isn't part of the body, and just connected to it, and not as a whole. The only ones I listen to are those that are neurologists, and even then a lot of what they say is mere opinion. I was lucky to find one that showed me my brain and why I had PTSD and seizures along with panic attacks from a pituitary adenoma. I had six different psychiatrist that gave me every conceivable psychological test they had and diagnosed me with six different reasons why I was the way I was, and then gave me valiums I got hooked on, and when I quit I went into a spiral of despair. I take 5mgs of AmLODIPine after surgery for the tumor, and have no so called psychological problems what-so-ever now. It true that talking about problems can make you feel better, but there is no way in hell they cure anything. I call the Psychiatric Profession the New Inquisitors. So sue me!  :butt:  Solitary
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Re: Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2015, 05:50:44 PM »
Holy Shit!  I'm half finished with the book.  It goes from describing something as kooky into describing horrors of pain and suffering on its members.