Author Topic: "Random mutations" seems too....random.  (Read 2427 times)

"Random mutations" seems too....random.
« on: March 05, 2013, 11:32:59 AM »
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Re: "Random mutations" seems too....random.
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2013, 02:20:45 PM »
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Re: "Random mutations" seems too....random.
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2013, 10:00:26 PM »
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This article says nothing about mutation... random or otherwise.

Offline Thumpalumpacus

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« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2013, 02:02:03 AM »
So, what's going on in this thread?
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2013, 05:19:13 PM »
It just shows diet can influence genes, along with other factors. I think we would see a lot more freaks being selected from if mutations were just "random". This almost seems intelligent.....without the consciousness if you follow.
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Offline PopeyesPappy

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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2013, 05:26:35 PM »
Lot's of things going on in evolution beyond random mutations that we are just beginning to learn about. (viral insertions)
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Re: "Random mutations" seems too....random.
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2013, 11:05:48 PM »
Some of the mutations that are random are exactly what makes you not identical to your siblings, so there is definitely randomness in there.
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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2013, 11:06:35 AM »
This confusion is the result of bad science fiction, in which "mutation" is synonymous with "physical change." The vast majority of genetic mutations have no effect whatsoever on the phenotype.

Offline bennyboy

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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2013, 06:52:08 PM »
I don't think "random" is really a good word.  They aren't necessarily random.  They are just unpredictable.
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Offline Colanth

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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2013, 09:25:15 PM »
Many mutations, being caused by things like cosmic ray hits, are as random as anything can be.  But mutation is just a small part of evolution.
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