Author Topic: Looking for a 1-on-1 discussion.  (Read 7804 times)

Offline SGOS

Re: Looking for a 1-on-1 discussion.
« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2014, 08:30:55 AM »
Don't get me wrong.  Christians do make critical appraisals of religious belief systems, just not their own.

Offline Mr.Obvious

Re: Looking for a 1-on-1 discussion.
« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2014, 08:31:37 AM »
I know I said that I would only respond to anti_thesis, but I guess this needs to be addressed as well.  I actually came to this discussion board simply because I was seeking to prevent a bombardment of comments/questions from a whole host of other commentators.  Not that the comments aren't worth while for the most part because they are, but because the majority warrant an adequate response that would require more time than I could put in.

Secondly, I came basically to answer questions about my faith and to clear up a lot of misconceptions that people have about Catholicism/Christianity.   No specific debate was intended, though I expected some issues would evolve into debates about a particular topic.

Finally, still being new to this type of thread I was trying to figure out how to decide whom to talk to.  Anti_thesis was the first to respond so I intend the discussion to be with him.  If he doesn't want to he can choose anyone else on here to talk in his place.   The question I have is how long do we wait if he's absent for an extended amount of time before I choose the next person to talk one on one with?  Is there a local rule on this?

I only now realized this already is in the 'one-on-one' discussion. Well, technically I suppose you would check if anybody wanted to do a one-on-one discussion in the peanutgallery or just reach an agreement in another thread. It seems a tad weird to start a one-on-one if you're only one. Basically, you could have started a more informal thread to find someone who agrees to a one-on-one.In that informal thread you can decide on all the rules and subjects the two of you can agree to. But I'm not sure it you HAVE to do it like that. Don't know if there's an official rule that says how a one-on-one needs to come about. This way, however, seems a tad confusing as I didn't notice it was the formal debate already. (I can't speak for others, of course.)

Also, if you find someone to debate you one-on-one on that subject, then good for the both of you. I think, however, that a lot of people here don't have misconceptions as a great deal of our ranks used to be christians. I used to be a catholic, for example. Most of us feel like Christianity isn't this obscure little religion that we don't know much about. Most of us see it daily and grew up in a cultural environment drenched in it. We are not atheïsts because we misconceive Christianity, but exactly because we conceive it for what it is.
For these reasons, I personally do not have any interest in discussing your religion with you. Not if you do not wish to make any specific and defendable claim. (And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you should. I'm just saying I don't think our discussion would be of interest to either of us.)

Good luck in finding a debatepartner though.
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Re: Looking for a 1-on-1 discussion.
« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2014, 12:35:21 PM »
I know I said that I would only respond to anti_thesis, but I guess this needs to be addressed as well.  I actually came to this discussion board simply because I was seeking to prevent a bombardment of comments/questions from a whole host of other commentators.  Not that the comments aren't worth while for the most part because they are, but because the majority warrant an adequate response that would require more time than I could put in.

Secondly, I came basically to answer questions about my faith and to clear up a lot of misconceptions that people have about Catholicism/Christianity.   No specific debate was intended, though I expected some issues would evolve into debates about a particular topic.

Finally, still being new to this type of thread I was trying to figure out how to decide whom to talk to.  Anti_thesis was the first to respond so I intend the discussion to be with him.  If he doesn't want to he can choose anyone else on here to talk in his place.   The question I have is how long do we wait if he's absent for an extended amount of time before I choose the next person to talk one on one with?  Is there a local rule on this?

What kind of misconceptions do you believe people have about Catholicism?   
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Re: Looking for a 1-on-1 discussion.
« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2014, 12:45:37 PM »
Secondly, I came basically to answer questions about my faith and to clear up a lot of misconceptions that people have about Catholicism/Christianity.
$20 says that "answer questions about my faith" actually means to proselytize for that religion and the "misconceptions" about it are in fact perfectly valid criticisms of that religion that he takes issue with.

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Re: Looking for a 1-on-1 discussion.
« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2014, 12:45:49 PM »
I know I said that I would only respond to anti_thesis
You titled the thread, "Looking for a one-on-one discussion." That means whoever responded did so assuming the discussion had not started yet. Now I have volunteered to be your debate partner, but I am going to reconsider doing so if you're going to be anal about it.

Re: Looking for a 1-on-1 discussion.
« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2014, 01:00:45 PM »
Secondly, I came basically to answer questions about my faith and to clear up a lot of misconceptions that people have about Catholicism/Christianity.   No specific debate was intended, though I expected some issues would evolve into debates about a particular topic.

You came to an atheist forum to help us understand Catholicism and Christianity?  We're atheists FFS!  We have no questions about your faith nor do we harbor any misconceptions.  See you soon in purgatory!
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Re: Looking for a 1-on-1 discussion.
« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2014, 01:34:55 PM »
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Secondly, I came basically to answer questions about my faith and to clear up a lot of misconceptions that people have about Catholicism/Christianity.


Presumptuous on your part.  I was catholic long ago.  Heard all the bullshit and rejected it fully by the time I was 20.

I have no more questions.  I've got you people pegged.

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Offline redsoxfan77 (OP)

Re: Looking for a 1-on-1 discussion.
« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2014, 03:51:26 PM »
I only now realized this already is in the 'one-on-one' discussion. Well, technically I suppose you would check if anybody wanted to do a one-on-one discussion in the peanutgallery or just reach an agreement in another thread. It seems a tad weird to start a one-on-one if you're only one. Basically, you could have started a more informal thread to find someone who agrees to a one-on-one.In that informal thread you can decide on all the rules and subjects the two of you can agree to. But I'm not sure it you HAVE to do it like that. Don't know if there's an official rule that says how a one-on-one needs to come about. This way, however, seems a tad confusing as I didn't notice it was the formal debate already. (I can't speak for others, of course.)

Also, if you find someone to debate you one-on-one on that subject, then good for the both of you. I think, however, that a lot of people here don't have misconceptions as a great deal of our ranks used to be christians. I used to be a catholic, for example. Most of us feel like Christianity isn't this obscure little religion that we don't know much about. Most of us see it daily and grew up in a cultural environment drenched in it. We are not atheïsts because we misconceive Christianity, but exactly because we conceive it for what it is.
For these reasons, I personally do not have any interest in discussing your religion with you. Not if you do not wish to make any specific and defendable claim. (And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you should. I'm just saying I don't think our discussion would be of interest to either of us.)

Good luck in finding a debatepartner though.

Fair enough.  To clarify: I'm looking for a debate partner. My background is Catholic/Christian.  I'm willing to debate the first person to respond to this post on any topic covering those areas. However, we may not be in total/any disagreement. This will become clearer as we move forward. Let's see where this goes. 

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Re: Looking for a 1-on-1 discussion.
« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2014, 04:48:57 PM »

Fair enough.  To clarify: I'm looking for a debate partner. My background is Catholic/Christian.  I'm willing to debate the first person to respond to this post on any topic covering those areas. However, we may not be in total/any disagreement. This will become clearer as we move forward. Let's see where this goes.
As stated earlier: I will debate you. Narrow it down to a specific topic, and we can move forward from there


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Re: Looking for a 1-on-1 discussion.
« Reply #39 on: September 30, 2014, 04:50:19 PM »
We'll also need a moderator to keep things on topic. Anyone wanna do it?


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Offline DunkleSeele

Re: Looking for a 1-on-1 discussion.
« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2014, 04:52:38 PM »
We'll also need a moderator to keep things on topic. Anyone wanna do it?


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I volunteer.

ETA: besides agreeing to a topic, also some basic rules should be laid down; for example, how much time one has to answer to a post, if both of you want to make some formal opening statements, etc.
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Offline GrinningYMIR

Re: Looking for a 1-on-1 discussion.
« Reply #41 on: September 30, 2014, 04:59:50 PM »
I volunteer.

ETA: besides agreeing to a topic, also some basic rules should be laid down; for example, how much time one has to answer to a post, if both of you want to make some formal opening statements, etc.




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Offline redsoxfan77 (OP)

Re: Looking for a 1-on-1 discussion.
« Reply #42 on: September 30, 2014, 05:20:08 PM »
As stated earlier: I will debate you. Narrow it down to a specific topic, and we can move forward from there


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Sounds good!  I'm not really sure what you believe about any one particular topic concerning Catholic Christianity, so I'm forced to make a generalization/provocative statement and hope it starts a debate. 

I'm in favor of having a 24 hour time limit to respond to every comment by which failure to respond would constitute in a default judgment in favor of the last posting party.  A moderator is fine.  I have no other suggestions and so I'm open to what you suggest.

Generalization: The Catholic Church condoned the holocaust propagated by Germany in World War II. 

My contention: I have seen no such evidence that even credibly suggests endorsement by the Church of Germany's actions.  (Purposefully short to spark debate).

Respond.

Offline DunkleSeele

Re: Looking for a 1-on-1 discussion.
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Re: Looking for a 1-on-1 discussion.
« Reply #44 on: September 30, 2014, 05:36:19 PM »
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