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Arizona nine-year old in Uzi gun lesson accident


A nine year-old girl in the US has killed her shooting instructor by accident while being shown how to use a high-powered submachine gun.
The instructor was giving the girl a lesson at a shooting range in Arizona when the recoil from the automatic fire caused her to lose control of the Uzi.
Charles Vacca, 39, was shot in the head and died after being airlifted to a hospital in Las Vegas.
The girl was at the shooting range with her parents, who filmed the lesson.
The footage shows the instructor coaching her as she fires a single shot at a target at the Last Stop shooting range in White Hills, Arizona.
The Uzi then appears to be switched to automatic as the girl pulls the trigger and loses her grip of the weapon.
The video, edited and released by the Mojave County Sheriff's office, ends abruptly before the instructor is shot.
Correspondents say it is common in parts of the US for children to be taught how to use firearms.
Many firing ranges have strict safety rules on instructing children. It is not clear what age limits the range has.

'Murica....  :eek:

Offline Munch

Re: Arizona nine-year old kills instructor in Uzi gun lesson accident
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2014, 06:07:59 AM »
I think most are already asking the same question, who the fuck teaches a child how to use a gun.
I trouble teaching my nephew how to open a bottle of juice and pour it out without him spilling it, yet giving a kid a weapon used for killing?

Re: Arizona nine-year old kills instructor in Uzi gun lesson accident
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2014, 08:54:56 AM »
Teaching a child to shoot a .22 is VASTLY different than trying to teach a child how to shoot a fully automatic Uzi. First the .22 is usually a rifle and has plenty for a child to grip on(in terms of stock and fore grip). Where in the uzi has none of these features and relies primarily on hand strength to hold on to the fucker. Secondly the .22 comes in children's sizes(smaller so that a child can hold onto the fuckers when firing). Uzi not so much. And finally a .22 has virtually no kick. The uzi on full auto kicks like a motherfucker.

I was taught to shoot at 9. I learned how to respect weapons, I learned how to care for them, I learned range safety. This moronic instructor sounds as if he failed to remember some basic range safety lessons, mainly never stand directly beside(or in a frontal angle of) a shooter. This is of course assuming that the little girl didn't muzzle sweep the entire range.
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Re: Arizona nine-year old kills instructor in Uzi gun lesson accident
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2014, 09:15:52 AM »
If only he'd been armed he could have protected himself.
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Offline Hakurei Reimu

Re: Arizona nine-year old kills instructor in Uzi gun lesson accident
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2014, 09:43:15 AM »
Or maybe gave the girl a gun that she couldn't control.
This moronic instructor sounds as if he failed to remember some basic range safety lessons, mainly never stand directly beside(or in a frontal angle of) a shooter. This is of course assuming that the little girl didn't muzzle sweep the entire range.
That's likely. You said yourself, the Uzi kicks like a motherfucker on full auto. It's likely that the Uzi knocked her back, around, or even off her feet altogether. If that happens, nowhere near the girl is a safe position. The instructor's principle mistake was giving the girl a gun she had no hope of handling.
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Re: Arizona nine-year old kills instructor in Uzi gun lesson accident
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2014, 11:43:06 AM »
I just think giving children a weapon is awful period. Someone could make the argument that maybe kids being trained when young teaches them to respect a weapon, but you have nothing to guarantee the child will, and by then it's to late.

Re: Arizona nine-year old kills instructor in Uzi gun lesson accident
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2014, 11:47:37 AM »
Why would a little girl need to know how to shoot a full automatic weapon in the first place?  :think:
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Re: Arizona nine-year old kills instructor in Uzi gun lesson accident
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2014, 12:15:56 PM »
Why do adults like target shooting? Same reason they like steep down hill skiing. Same reason they like skydiving. Same reason morons like Evil Kanievil(sp) stupidly like jumping buses on a motorcycle.

The difference with guns is that with that risk taking there is fare more death because of ego and the no rules climate the industry sets up.
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Re: Arizona nine-year old kills instructor in Uzi gun lesson accident
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2014, 01:18:19 PM »
Why would a little girl need to know how to shoot a full automatic weapon in the first place?  :think:

In case she's attacked by pedoterrorists.
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Re: Arizona nine-year old kills instructor in Uzi gun lesson accident
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2014, 01:42:27 PM »
Why would a little girl need to know how to shoot a full automatic weapon in the first place?  :think:
To fight hordes of immigrants and/or our tyrannical liberal government.  Duh!  Don't tread on me!  Deo vindice!  Habeas corpus!  E Pluribis Unum!
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Re: Arizona nine-year old kills instructor in Uzi gun lesson accident
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2014, 02:56:42 PM »
I found a video of the incident, and the instructor was indeed standing to the side and even leaning slightly in front of her.
it does not show his death, it cuts off just before he is shot, here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/08/27/firing-range-instructor-hands-9-year-old-an-uzi-now-hes-dead/?tid=hp_mm

Can you imagine the trauma this little girl is enduring due to this dumb ass idea to teach her to use a fully automatic weapon? She will likely be scarred for life.
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Offline PickelledEggs

Re: Arizona nine-year old kills instructor in Uzi gun lesson accident
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2014, 02:57:52 PM »
There is literally zero reason for a child to be even near a loaded Uzi let alone learning to use one...

But no. "We gotta kill them there abortion doctors! Every life is precious!"

As upsetting as this is, I'm not the least bit surprised that something went wrong like this

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Re: Arizona nine-year old kills instructor in Uzi gun lesson accident
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2014, 03:35:05 PM »
"Daddy, can I borrow the Uzi for a couple of hours? Me and Melissa want to go down to the playground and kill some terrorists. She's got her daddy's Mac 10, so can I take your gun?" (giggles)

Re: Arizona nine-year old kills instructor in Uzi gun lesson accident
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2014, 05:53:03 PM »
In case she's attacked by pedoterrorists.
Or pterrorists. Big flying reptiles that crashing into tall buildings.
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Re: Arizona nine-year old kills instructor in Uzi gun lesson accident
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2014, 03:55:17 PM »
The exact same thing happened in Massachussetts a few years ago except the kid was the one that died. There's no rational reason to let a kid shoot an Uzi. They're known for being hard to control. Give the kid a fully auto M4 or AK before an Uzi.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/father-christopher-bizilj-died-firing-uzi-urged-son/story?id=12565132
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