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Offline Baruch

Re: TV Series Thread
« Reply #390 on: May 23, 2018, 04:18:08 PM »
i blame the Lego Batman movie.
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Offline trdsf

Re: TV Series Thread
« Reply #391 on: May 23, 2018, 07:12:52 PM »
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I think this guy explains what it is pretty well.
I tuned out when he started going on about SJWs, however... it's pretty clear to me, even as someone who didn't grow up on this series, that this is completely fucked up.  It looks like it was drawn by a kindergartener -- an average one, not a kindergartener who can actually draw.  I compare it to my having grown up reading (among others) Teen Titans comics... and then looking at the shitpile that is 'Teen Titans Go'.
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Re: TV Series Thread
« Reply #392 on: May 23, 2018, 08:12:44 PM »
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I tuned out when he started going on about SJWs, however... it's pretty clear to me, even as someone who didn't grow up on this series, that this is completely fucked up.  It looks like it was drawn by a kindergartener -- an average one, not a kindergartener who can actually draw.  I compare it to my having grown up reading (among others) Teen Titans comics... and then looking at the shitpile that is 'Teen Titans Go'.

yeah that's pretty much it. Its also the fact the original teen titans series, which I didn't watch but can see why it was so popular, was brought to an end after 5 seasons, just to be replaced with this crap, because it doesn't require thought or heavy planning to mass produce something that only keep making so many episodes for, as its aimed at very young children.

I mean, who wants to hear stories of the girl who struggles to keep the demonic evil inside of her due to her demon fathers influence, or the emotional struggle of someone having to let go people they cared for when their memory was wiped, NAH, LETS HAVE EPISODES ABOUT TOILET FUN AND PANCAKES!

This is a massive pet peeve for me, this dumbing down for children crap people like this do. I was 6-7 then the original thundercats was on tv, and while the stories are a little corny as were the morals at the end of each episode, it wasn't dumbed down for kids as badly as it is today, likewise neither was transformers, or he-man, kids watched those shows in the 80s where their was action, fighting, characters in relationships, inner turmoil.

Its these people who think they need to dumb down cartoons, like cartoon network, because kids are to dumb to get more complex stories then 'singing about waffles'.

maybe george carlin hit the point perfectly.

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keep kids dumb, dumb kids make dumb adults and easier to control.
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Offline trdsf

Re: TV Series Thread
« Reply #393 on: May 23, 2018, 08:22:13 PM »
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I mean, who wants to hear stories of the girl who struggles to keep the demonic evil inside of her due to her demon fathers influence, or the emotional struggle of someone having to let go people they cared for when their memory was wiped, NAH, LETS HAVE EPISODES ABOUT TOILET FUN AND PANCAKES!
Exactly.  The whole Trigon arc was a brilliant bit of storytelling, and Raven was a great character because of her struggles, not despite them.

This is why my personal mantra with regard to my writing is "full creative control".  Because I'd rather turn down a multimillion dollar contract than let some hack completely fuck up characters I have lived with for nearly thirty years.

Also, if you dumb things down for kids, you end up with dumb kids.
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Offline Hydra009

Re: TV Series Thread
« Reply #394 on: May 23, 2018, 08:53:46 PM »
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It be like making a batman cartoon with this design.


WTF happened to Supe's face?!  Someone call Clayface 'cause that guy needs a plastic surgeon pronto!

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Granted, these are pretty oversimplified, but broadly (very, very broadly) I find this to be a pretty accurate depiction of how western animation norms have changed over the years.

Particularly noticeable is how newer shows have a more "rounded" look.  If it's difficult to tell if a character has elbows, it's a fairly safe bet that it's a cartoon from the 2010s.
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Online Munch

Re: TV Series Thread
« Reply #395 on: May 24, 2018, 05:33:14 AM »
I don't even mind the kind of styles in animation now when creating new and unique shows like say Steven universe, adventure time, gravity falls, their new concepts so the style of drawing becomes part of their identity.
It doesn't work when a pre established product, which became popular, suddenly gets molded into a new current style that doesn't match its old style.

I loved shows like batman the animated series, x-men, gargoyles, they had unique styles that gave them their quality, but more so they were cartoons with a serious, real world tone to them, so they couldn't be given a goofy, slapstick style of animation.



That's why I wouldn't want these kind of shows made today, and looking at what they did to thundercats highlights perfectly why that is.

I mean hell, one of the early episodes of gargoyles had one of the main characters, Broadway, who visited their human friend Elisa, and playing around with her gun after he watched a western, he accidentally shot her. not a lazer gun either, a proper gun, she was bleeding on the floor, and she nearly died in hospital. You just can't make a story like that and show now grounded it is in a goofy, slapstick style of animation.

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Re: TV Series Thread
« Reply #396 on: May 24, 2018, 09:24:44 PM »
This is a good video on the problem with this premise.

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Offline Hydra009

Re: TV Series Thread
« Reply #397 on: May 24, 2018, 09:46:15 PM »
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This is a good video on the problem with this premise.

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Oof.  There's lazy and then there's Sizemore-tier laziness. (a writer who essentially photo-copied characters from work to another)

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Re: TV Series Thread
« Reply #398 on: May 24, 2018, 10:05:14 PM »
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Oof.  There's lazy and then there's Sizemore-tier laziness. (a writer who essentially photo-copied characters from work to another)

Makes me think of the comic book artist Greg Land, who drew some works for marvels ultimate series, and was notorious for drawing most female characters in the comics by tracing porno images


Offline Hydra009

Re: TV Series Thread
« Reply #399 on: May 24, 2018, 10:20:40 PM »
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Makes me think of the comic book artist Greg Land, who drew some works for marvels ultimate series, and was notorious for drawing most female characters in the comics by tracing porno images.
I remember that.  Good times.

Apparently, a lot of MTG cards were based on real people:


Offline Cavebear

Re: TV Series Thread
« Reply #400 on: May 25, 2018, 09:06:54 AM »
The Teen Titan change was a real bummer!  I mean, they weren't real special as teens, but as comic strip characters?  BLAH! 

I don't need Prince Valiant quality drawings.  But this new garbage is "Nancy" quality or worse.  I LIKE simple animation.  The Simpsons are just fine with me.  You aren't watching for the quality animation.  But its the plots and jokes you want there.  I love Phineas and Ferb (et al) for the humor, not the art.
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Offline Hydra009

Re: TV Series Thread
« Reply #401 on: July 15, 2018, 10:30:31 AM »


A guy can dream.

Offline Mr.Obvious

Re: TV Series Thread
« Reply #402 on: July 15, 2018, 11:19:41 AM »
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A guy can dream.

Are they still making and remaking that game?
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Offline Hydra009

Re: TV Series Thread
« Reply #403 on: July 15, 2018, 10:03:33 PM »
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Are they still making and remaking that game?
Are you talking about Containment Breach?

Offline Mr.Obvious

Re: TV Series Thread
« Reply #404 on: July 16, 2018, 02:10:16 AM »
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Are you talking about Containment Breach?

Yes, based on this, innit?

I tried to join The wiki-group or whatever it was called, once, years ago.
Great lore.
I got declined.
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