Author Topic: Define Religion  (Read 1853 times)

Re: Define Religion
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2014, 01:37:10 PM »
Besides, saying to people they've got a psychological illness or something wrong with them on that level seems like the least best way to get them to listen with an open mind. It'd turn them super-defensive.
Meh, the Korean DMZ is less on the defensive than religious people.

Re: Define Religion
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2014, 11:06:54 PM »
There was an article a while back about religion being indeed identified as a mental illness. Not sure if the article was real or not, I never looked into it much.

Offline Mr.Obvious

Re: Define Religion
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2014, 03:31:02 AM »
Meh, the Korean DMZ is less on the defensive than religious people.

Touché  :lol:
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Re: Define Religion
« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2014, 07:49:58 AM »
Religion is bullshit. I win.

The circle the wagons mentality is built in. Every religion is the same. We are the walls of the citadel and everything else is the enemy without. The overhyped persecution of xtians in Rome or the overhyped persecution of Mormons in Missouri; different kettle, same fish.

Re: Define Religion
« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2014, 10:44:13 AM »
I'm suspicious of any definition of religion that woudl disqualify any organizations widely considered by themselves and others to be religions. If your definition excludes Buddhists, Jains, Raellians, or Unitarian Universalists; maybe your definition is too narrow.
Atheists are not anti-Christian. They are anti-stupid.--WitchSabrina

Re: Define Religion
« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2014, 11:31:53 AM »
I'm suspicious of any definition of religion that woudl disqualify any organizations widely considered by themselves and others to be religions. If your definition excludes Buddhists, Jains, Raellians, or Unitarian Universalists; maybe your definition is too narrow.
Yeah, but those are some very disparate beliefs.  It'd take one hell of a definition to include them all and keep everything else out.  I suppose one could focus more on how religions operate rather than what its adherents believe, but even then it's a tall order.

Re: Define Religion
« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2014, 12:31:17 PM »
Every religion thinks every other religion is bullshit no matter what it believes. And we believe every religion is bullshit, so I win again.

Offline josephpalazzo

Re: Define Religion
« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2014, 05:10:04 PM »
Wouldn't it be interesting is a psychologist was able to validate religion as a psychological deficiency, like a mental state where the individual has been so ingrained into the fiction of his beliefs he can't discern reality from that fiction.

According to Peter Boghossian, author of A Manual for Creating Atheists, religion is a mental disorder. Needless to say that created quite a stir, and he was attacked by a lot of the christian apologists. Even so far as being accused of hate speech (see:Is Peter Boghossian guilty of hate speech?

Re: Define Religion
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2014, 11:15:28 PM »
An idea of way of life that people ascribe the utmost importance in their lives.

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Re: Define Religion
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2014, 07:55:01 AM »
There was an article a while back about religion being indeed identified as a mental illness. Not sure if the article was real or not, I never looked into it much.

Most likely it isn't given any backing, because the masses of religious followers in the world, from the calm to outright insane would take offense to such a claim.

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Quote from: josephpalazzo on August 26, 2014, 05:10:04 PM
According to Peter Boghossian, author of A Manual for Creating Atheists, religion is a mental disorder. Needless to say that created quite a stir, and he was attacked by a lot of the christian apologists. Even so far as being accused of hate speech (see:Is Peter Boghossian guilty of hate speech?

Ah yeah, just like say, trying to tell the masses that they are insane its harder to get the idea across. And it is insane, adults believing in fairy tales well past the age of when they should. Even comic book, sci fi and anime fans are more sane then religous folk, because they at least know the thing they are into is not real.
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Offline SGOS

Re: Define Religion
« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2014, 08:21:16 AM »
it is insane, adults believing in fairy tales well past the age of when they should. Even comic book, sci fi and anime fans are more sane then religous folk, because they at least know the thing they are into is not real.
It seems so strange to me to be living amid all our technological wonders that were created by our finest minds dedicated to productive thought, and at the same time, great masses of people still believe in nonsense.

Re: Define Religion
« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2014, 10:14:55 AM »
An idea of way of life that people ascribe the utmost importance in their lives.
That's covered by the term life stance.

Re: Define Religion
« Reply #27 on: September 11, 2014, 11:28:38 AM »
From Wikipedia:

"A religion is an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to an order of existence. Many religions have narratives, symbols, and sacred histories that are intended to explain the meaning of life and/or to explain the origin of life or the Universe. From their beliefs about the cosmos and human nature, people derive morality, ethics, religious laws or a preferred lifestyle."

Seems to cover all the systems usually considered religions without co-opting cosmology or golf.
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Re: Define Religion
« Reply #28 on: September 11, 2014, 11:55:11 AM »
It seems to me that religion stems from our own personal fear of the unknown.  It answers the question of why we are here.  And why bad things happen.  It basically covers all those 'why' questions that have no answers.  That's why all religions are fear based.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Re: Define Religion
« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2014, 11:59:21 AM »
A related question:
What is the difference between an religion and a cult?
Personally, I don't see any differences.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?