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Offline aitm

Re: All Darren Wilson Does is Win
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2014, 09:08:15 AM »
Again, in cased you two missed it. Thats enough bitchin. Give it a rest.
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Re: All Darren Wilson Does is Win
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2014, 10:56:01 AM »
Dickheads like you tarnish the reputations of Australians by using our flag as your avatar, piss off and find another flag for your avatar.

I have to ask, what reputation? I'm not an American or an Australian and have never heard of Australians having a reputation beyond inventing slang that sounds funny. Oh and abusing the native Australians, I'm not sure Shiranu can do more damage even if he spent his entire life working towards that goal. I think you're inventing a problem to cause conflict.

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Re: All Darren Wilson Does is Win
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2014, 11:54:30 AM »
I'm not an American or an Australian and have never heard of Australians having a reputation beyond inventing slang that sounds funny.
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Re: All Darren Wilson Does is Win
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2014, 04:56:52 PM »
The Ferguson police officially released their incident report...

http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/226910/ferguson-police-release-michael-brown-incident-report-and-its-empty/



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Offline Hakurei Reimu

Re: All Darren Wilson Does is Win
« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2014, 10:11:13 PM »
A lot of convictions are based solely on eyewitness testimony and identification which we know can be very faulty. As such, such figures are unreliable and suffer from confirmation bias — if your focused myoptically on one version of the event, unless you are very careful in your procedure (which not every police department is), your initial focus can easily lead to a conviction, even if the suspect is actually innocent.

Eyewitness identification of assailants can be wrong in an astonishing 75% percent of cases. This is in rape, where the victim has the most incentive and opportunity (no other people involved, extended period to memorize the assailant's features) to get the identification right, and because DNA is available we can actually test to see if they are. And they're shockingly poor — to the tune of 75% wrong. Think of how wrong an identification can get when the eyewitnesses doesn't have as much incentive or opportunity to get the ID right, like the fleeting glimpse of a suspect involved in a shoplifting case.

This leads me to believe that the correlation you cite is very much suspect. It is not a good piece of evidence against the case that the justice system is racist. Even if the majority of crimes are stratified by race, it is the disparity between the true criminals and the convictions that the racism lies.

A blank incident report for an incident that clearly occurred is not very good PR. An incident report should have been filled with as much documentation as they could whenever a death occurs, even if just to cover their asses.

Something is wrong with your department if police officers are shooting anyone dead for shoplifting — something is wrong with YOU if you think anyone deserves that fate. And something is wrong with your department if police officers are shooting people even before they knew a crime had been committed.
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Re: All Darren Wilson Does is Win
« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2014, 01:51:48 AM »

Re: All Darren Wilson Does is Win
« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2014, 10:26:20 AM »
The only two things I really know about Australia are that Steve Irwin lived there, and that Godzilla killed Zilla by whacking him into the Sydney Opera House.



I knew that and they are all named Bruce.

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Offline josephpalazzo

Re: All Darren Wilson Does is Win
« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2014, 10:33:16 AM »
Something is wrong with your department if police officers are shooting anyone dead for shoplifting — something is wrong with YOU if you think anyone deserves that fate. And something is wrong with your department if police officers are shooting people even before they knew a crime had been committed.

Hmmm, considering there are more than 200 million guns in the country, if I were a cop, I would shoot first then ask questions. BTW, I've never own a gun, never shot one, just saying that living in a gun culture, you have every reason to fear for your life, and as a cop, life must be hell.

Re: All Darren Wilson Does is Win
« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2014, 11:06:01 AM »
I am so sick of idiots pointing out the rioters thinking a few people represent all the protesters. If race was not an issue you would not even see the peaceful protesters.

I was a teen myself. I did stupid shit myself. I had a gun drawn on my by a cop once. I threw my wallet at a cop once. And guess what, I didn't end up dead while unarmed.
RACE is an issue but I am tired of both the bigots and the idiots who are not but are unaware of their own subconscious bias, constantly blaming blacks. I am white and accept that at one time was part of that bias and NO it is not a matter of "white guilt". It is merely an acceptance of the economic disparity and the lopsided nature of how law treats blacks much more negatively.

If you claim that race should not be an issue, the only way to fix that is to accept that it is an issue and don't pull the blame game or "look at what they do".

If any fucking moron posting in this thread has any fucking guts who think Brown or Garner or Martin deserved it, talk to their mothers. If you cant do that then SHUT THE FUCK UP BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE and absolutely no understanding of the disparity.

IT SHOULD BE about economics. And I do hear plenty of blacks telling other blacks not to riot. But it wo nt get fixed by ignoring that it is an issue or stupidly thinking it's all in their heads.
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Re: All Darren Wilson Does is Win
« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2014, 11:11:32 AM »
Hmmm, considering there are more than 200 million guns in the country, if I were a cop, I would shoot first then ask questions. BTW, I've never own a gun, never shot one, just saying that living in a gun culture, you have every reason to fear for your life, and as a cop, life must be hell.

Um our flooded gun market certainly is an issue, but we are talking about a black teen without a gun getting murdered by a cop with a gun.

Which race is always advocating no rules and a free for all "rights" issue when it comes to guns?

Never heard Al Sharpton or Jessie Jackson say anything like Wayne La P dipshit "You can pry my gun from my cold dead hands".

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Offline josephpalazzo

Re: All Darren Wilson Does is Win
« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2014, 11:21:12 AM »
Um our flooded gun market certainly is an issue, but we are talking about a black teen without a gun getting murdered by a cop with a gun.

Which race is always advocating no rules and a free for all "rights" issue when it comes to guns?

Never heard Al Sharpton or Jessie Jackson say anything like Wayne La P dipshit "You can pry my gun from my cold dead hands".


I'm going to ignore the race issue, not that it's unimportant, but sticking to my answer in regards to what it is to be a cop in the US, the cop had no idea if the victim was armed or not. It's not as if it was written on his forehead. Also, the victim was 6foot4 and weighing 300lbs. If I had been the cop in that situation I don't know if I would have reacted any different.
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Re: All Darren Wilson Does is Win
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2014, 01:18:18 PM »
Nope, ignoring the race issue is precisely why nothing ever gets done. Blacks know it is an issue, far to many of us don't.

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Re: All Darren Wilson Does is Win
« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2014, 01:22:03 PM »
Explain to me how someone running away from you can magically assault you with no gun when you have one?

Now if he had approached me in a white middle class neighborhood, even if he knew I stole some cigars and shoved someone, the odds are far more likely I would have made it to the back of the police car alive and been charged with less.

I've had a gun aimed at me by a police officer, and did not end up dead. I have thrown a wallet at a cop and did not end up dead.

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Re: All Darren Wilson Does is Win
« Reply #29 on: August 25, 2014, 03:28:19 PM »
Apparently arrest rates match victim reports almost perfectly, putting a huge damper on the theory that the cops are "racist".

Here we go again. You do not have to be racist to be unaware of your own long term conditioning. In this case the cop's training. If you are trained to assume the worst, even calls that seem simple, your mindset even before you make an approach is going to be set that way. On top of that cops are trained to dominate.

What people keep missing here is LONG TERM. Poverty and the way law enforcement treats blacks ratio wise affects them negatively more. This has nothing to do with excusing riots or looters.

No one should die for stealing cigars, or jaywalking. I did stupid shit myself as a teen, again, had a gun aimed at me by a cop, and once threw a wallet at a cop. I didn't end up dead over that.

If cops are trained to constantly fear their conditions, then the people who live under them are going to fear them.

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