Edit: Taming it down because I am pissed off at what you implied, not at you specifically. If you catch this before I am done editing, just realize that.
ISIS, it's views, and it's crimes have absolutely nothing to do with anyones foreign policy. Zero!
IS is an extremist branch off of Al Qaeda, an organization trained and funded by the American government during the very late 80s and early 90s to combat the "Communist threat". It's entire existence is because of the CIA, which happens to exist in a foreign country that isn't Iraq and Afghanistan.
Therefore it's existence IS dependent upon Western forces and thus Western forces shoulder part of the blame. It happened within my life-time, and I am young... so you cant say it was "too long ago" for people to have their hands washed clean of it, especially when it has caused so much suffering to millions and millions of people since it was started.
Iraq being rid of a dictator had the perfect opportunity to turn things around, just as Egypt did.
You just said the West had NOTHING to do with this situation... then you cite that it is the power struggle in Iraq that is allowing IS this opportunity. I think that is a very fair point, one I agree with and I think most people who have payed attention agree with, but you realize why Iraq is in a power flux right now, right?
Iraq didn't over-throw Saddam by itself. Iraq wasn't even close to over-throwing Saddam by itself. Iraq is in the power struggle it is in atm because the United States decided to finish what they started in the first Gulf War and invade for one reason or another a country that had nothing to do with the "War on Terror"... at best they were a sponsor of terrorists. That is all fine-and-dandy, but if that is the case then we would need to declare war on Saudi Arabia (the biggest funder of terrorists in the Middle East), Iran (second biggest), Pakistan, Palestine, Egypt, and of course ourselves for funding terrorists throughout the Middle East and Latin America (and Europe, and Asia...).
The Iraq power struggle is more than anything else solely on the West. Without our involvement Saddam would still be ruling and, in all honesty, the people of Iraq would be better off. That is really shitty to have to say, but at the end of the day it was a lose-lose situation that we could do nothing about, at least not by sending them guns or bombing them into submission.
Twice now you've been shown videos of islamists performing barbaric executions and twice you have blamed the US....
I have posted it twice now and you still haven't seem to read a thing I said. What I have said is that the United States, and the West, hold responsibility for the consequences of their actions. If you create a power struggle after training groups to be terrorist organizations, what exactly do you think is going to happen.
No where have I said IS is not responsible nor have I said the West is solely responsible. I have simply said that many of the factors that have lead to this situation are the fault of the West, and if you have a problem with that then you need to take it up (very recent) history and not me.
...and what christians did centuries ago.
Yeah, I didn't say that anywhere. I honestly have no idea where you pulled that out of. If you are going to accuse me of supporting mass murderers, at least read my damn posts before accusing me of something that, if you had even the slightest clue about what I am about, you would realize how dead wrong you got.
uhhhh No. I'll expose your "blame everything on the west" islamist apologetics anytime the mood strikes me.
Again; No, you will accuse me of "supporting mass murderers" anytime the mood strikes me because you are ignoring history for one reason or another and completely reading into my posts things I never said, as well as simply ignoring things I said.
And as HR said, "Islamist Apologist" is a right-wing buzzword, dog-whistle load of horse shit. Please don't bring yourself down by using that drivel.