Here Is Why Religion Should Stay Out Of Public Schools

Started by Solitary, August 04, 2014, 11:23:37 AM

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1liesalot

QuoteWe 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

Proud to be militant. The God freaks have had it too good for too long The should be treated in exactly the same way as any other set of ideas... Marxism, Fascism, whatever.

Fuck their murderous religious bullshit. Why should their bullshit ideas have special dispensation.

Solitary

Atheist are a very small minority, and yet we destroy society because we don't believe in a Magic Man in the sky? Give me a fucking break!
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Quote from: bigdavebear on August 07, 2014, 12:15:34 AM
atheism has ruined everything. secularism and atheism has brainwashed our children and taken away God from our lives. How anybody can think that's a good thing is beyond me.....
religion has ruined everything. Bigotry and imaginary friend worship has brainwashed our children and taken away Reason from our lives. How anybody can think that's a good thing is beyond me.....
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

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Wait, I was taught that god is everywhere all the time so if that foolishness is true, which it isn't then how is it even possible to take god out of schools? Taking god out of schools?  This would imply that teachers and school administrators are indeed more powerful than god.

Well that's good news. .
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Quote from: 1liesalot on May 12, 2015, 05:54:59 PM
Proud to be militant. The God freaks have had it too good for too long The should be treated in exactly the same way as any other set of ideas... Marxism, Fascism, whatever.

Fuck their murderous religious bullshit. Why should their bullshit ideas have special dispensation.

Why do you speak about Marxism as if it's a bad thing? Marxism is merely a dialectical materialistic, scientific, philosophical Analysis on society. Communism isn't a bad thing either, Communism involves a stateless, classless, moneyless society with common ownership of the means of production and production for need instead of profit. The countries which you would most likely refer to as "Communist" are/were only Socialist and thus merely in the transitionary stage between capitalism and communism. Most of the nations which you would call "communist" were Marxist-Leninist, a form of Socialism that features State-Socialism where the state primarily controls the means of production which is better than a minority of corporations and the bourgeoisie. It also features the belief that a vanguard party is necessary to secure the revolution for the working class, as well as centralized planning

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SoldierofFortune

I believe in the idea that in any democratic society the citizens have to be free for forming and giving their opinions to be negotiated at the national level.
However, this cannot always be the case in the countries whose population is very large in size, and whose population is culturally diverse.
There must be kinda uniformity in education, maybe just to produce the average citizens of the future, who are now just children but future adults.

But then, Ok. For instance, give the Christians the right to establish their private schools and to regulate their curriculum.
America is full of wealthy devout Cristians who can make it happen.

Here in Turkey, there is a Kurdish movement who demands their right to education in the Kurdish language instruction medium. Politics aside, this is near impossible due to the inferiority of the Kurdish language, not because Kurdish is inherently inferior, but because Kurdish has not been written so much that as far as I know it has not any considerable literary or scientific record of written material.

But Ok, let them build their own curriculum in the Kurdish language and it will be nothing but a total failure.

But then again, these brain storming of the regular citizens like us who are not able to affect the opinions of the policy-makers on the government level.

So my opinion is that, let it be : )

Hoxha Cat

Quote from: SoldierofFortune on January 07, 2022, 04:34:10 PM
I believe in the idea that in any democratic society the citizens have to be free for forming and giving their opinions to be negotiated at the national level.
However, this cannot always be the case in the countries whose population is very large in size, and whose population is culturally diverse.
There must be kinda uniformity in education, maybe just to produce the average citizens of the future, who are now just children but future adults.

But then, Ok. For instance, give the Christians the right to establish their private schools and to regulate their curriculum.
America is full of wealthy devout Cristians who can make it happen.

Here in Turkey, there is a Kurdish movement who demands their right to education in the Kurdish language instruction medium. Politics aside, this is near impossible due to the inferiority of the Kurdish language, not because Kurdish is inherently inferior, but because Kurdish has not been written so much that as far as I know it has not any considerable literary or scientific record of written material.

But Ok, let them build their own curriculum in the Kurdish language and it will be nothing but a total failure.

But then again, these brain storming of the regular citizens like us who are not able to affect the opinions of the policy-makers on the government level.

So my opinion is that, let it be : )
Fair enough, each is allowed their opinion, but I as a "Militant" Atheist, Anti-Theist and Marxist believe that private schools should not exist and that any form of educational institution should not teach religious beliefs.

SoldierofFortune

Quote from: ProletarianBanner on January 07, 2022, 04:38:39 PM
Fair enough, each is allowed their opinion, but I as a "Militant" Atheist, Anti-Theist and Marxist believe that private schools should not exist and that any form of educational institution should not teach religious beliefs.

Ok then, Convince the majority of the citizens of your opinion, make them vote for you, so the worldview and lifestyle you propose will be go into effect and granted under the constitution, providing whenever the people give up their opinion to change the system, they must have the right to it, again, by the democratic ways.

But the handicapp of the democracy is that, non-democratic points of view can establish itself by utilizing the very democratic ways, and after grabbing the power, they may want to disestablish the democracy, and want to perpetuate their order.

So, democracy is like a flower who must be took care of, fragile :D