Author Topic: Another nail in "free will"  (Read 1240 times)

Online aitm (OP)

Another nail in "free will"
« on: August 01, 2014, 01:39:40 PM »
Somma bitch man. This pretty much puts a fucking to free will AND smacks intelligent design right in the mouth as well.



http://news.msn.com/science-technology/us-scientists-take-step-toward-blood-test-for-suicide
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Re: Another nail in "free will"
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2014, 03:24:01 PM »
"How long will we be
 Waiting, for your modern messiah
 To take away all the hatred
 That darkens the light in your eye"
  -Disturbed, Liberate

Re: Another nail in "free will"
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2014, 07:11:45 PM »
Somma bitch man. This pretty much puts a fucking to free will AND smacks intelligent design right in the mouth as well.



http://news.msn.com/science-technology/us-scientists-take-step-toward-blood-test-for-suicide


Lol. So some of us are wired to stick a gun in our mouth, or whatever. It was Jesus!

Re: Another nail in "free will"
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2014, 11:25:46 PM »
And some of us are wired to shove a cross down our throats. :wall: :hang:  :winkle: Solitary
There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.

Re: Another nail in "free will"
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2014, 10:58:20 AM »
This is interesting because it changes some situations that I can think of.

If a person is supposedly driven to suicide, did they have the previous biological design to do so?

If a person is hounded on facebook or at school, if the person committing suicide can be shown to have this biological predisposition, does it not serve as a defense for the perpetrators?

How much of a predisposition to suicide does a gay man have who is rejected by his family?

I'm thinking this will open up a very interesting list of moral and legal implications.



Online aitm (OP)

Re: Another nail in "free will"
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2014, 01:03:53 PM »
I agree Strom, if this turns out to be truthful, or provable, what will stop THE most powerful industry in the world from demanding genetic testing before you can buy some types of insurance? Uninsurable? Marriage? Not so fast kid, lets check your genetics to see if you may end up killing the grandkids and yourself first. Military? Hell yes, there is a fox-hole eh?
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Re: Another nail in "free will"
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2014, 01:40:39 PM »
I agree Strom, if this turns out to be truthful, or provable, what will stop THE most powerful industry in the world from demanding genetic testing before you can buy some types of insurance? Uninsurable? Marriage? Not so fast kid, lets check your genetics to see if you may end up killing the grandkids and yourself first. Military? Hell yes, there is a fox-hole eh?

No shit. the more you think about it, the more implications you discover. And take it to another level; indicators seen through testing other behavioral indicators that could pretty much determine how any person would approach any particular situation.

Online aitm (OP)

Re: Another nail in "free will"
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2014, 07:32:50 PM »
There has already been enough evidence to suggest that the human mind is a genetic frenzy of pre-determination by proxy (might be the wrong word). Being pre-disposed to certain foods or colors, diseases and now mental disposition. When the day comes the genetic manipulation can be done in utero ( if necessary) to fix a problem, will the "beauty" of human diversity be replaced by simply better humans, humans that act more like each other and most likely will eventually start to resemble each other as well? Perhaps this itself will render robotics obsolete as humanity becomes more the robot....eh?
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Re: Another nail in "free will"
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2014, 12:36:39 PM »
This is interesting because it changes some situations that I can think of.

If a person is supposedly driven to suicide, did they have the previous biological design to do so?

If a person is hounded on facebook or at school, if the person committing suicide can be shown to have this biological predisposition, does it not serve as a defense for the perpetrators?

How much of a predisposition to suicide does a gay man have who is rejected by his family?

I'm thinking this will open up a very interesting list of moral and legal implications.



Yes, it would have legal implications, but that doesn't change the fact that if a person breaks the law and harms someone they are still responsible for the deed. Apparently tigers don't have freewill, and when they kill they are still responsible, and killed to protect society. Solitary
There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.

Online aitm (OP)

Re: Another nail in "free will"
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2014, 01:28:52 PM »
and when they kill they are still responsible, and killed to protect society. Solitary
yeah, we don't here most clamoring for "life in prison" eh?
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Re: Another nail in "free will"
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2014, 01:32:37 PM »
I hope they find the gene or hormone or whatever causes perkiness, or what I call "Rachael Ray Syndrome." That needs to be ripped out of our physiology forever.

Online aitm (OP)

Re: Another nail in "free will"
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2014, 01:34:14 PM »
find me the gene that makes people want to watch shit like Jerry Springer or any of the so called "reality" tv shows. They need eliminating.  I can handle Ray perkiness.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust