Author Topic: Post your funny pictures here!!! part Deux  (Read 820690 times)

Online PopeyesPappy

Re: Post your funny pictures here!!! part Deux
« Reply #9735 on: November 20, 2021, 11:10:26 AM »
Poverty is indeed part of the problem, but not the whole of it.  Problems can have more than one cause, obviously.

By and large, poverty and gun violence are correlated among countries, but there are exceptions.  The US is certainly unusual in that it ranks fairly high in gun homicide rate (17th, more akin to South American countries than Western Europe or Canada) but somewhat low in poverty rate (106th).  Could another factor be at work here?

Blaming it all on poverty - which sounds convincing, so no doubt some may find it convincing for this reason alone and not think about it too much - conveniently ignores the ease of access of firearms and comparatively little oversight (as I subtly pointed out earlier, there is a national registry required for car owners, but to my knowledge, no such registry exists for gun buyers)

If you would like me to accept that people would kill each other anyway and that gun policy has nothing to do with homicide rate (a stance the gun lobby has certainly invested large sums of money in, since such a mentality absolves them in any deaths and doesn't threaten arms sales), I would very much like to hear your thoughts on Australia's experience with the same problem:
Source:  https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2021/215/9/gun-violence-australia-2002-2016-cohort-study

In this scenario, do you think the homicide rate stayed the same from year to year, since people would "just find new ways to kill one another"?  Let's find out.

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I've shared the data on what I'm about to say on this forum before so I'm not going to bother with digging it up and doing it again, but there is an important piece to this that you are missing.

In the 20ish year period after Port Arthur homicide rates in the US declined as fast as they did in Australia. This happened during a period when gun laws were become less not more restrictive in the US so there obviously something more at play here than just the availability of guns. The other thing to keep in mind is during that period the one demographic that bucked the trend, keeping US homicide rates in the US from falling even further, was inner city young black males. A demographic that makes up less than 3% of the US population but accounts for about 40ish% of all gun homicides here. 
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Offline Shiranu

Re: Post your funny pictures here!!! part Deux
« Reply #9736 on: November 20, 2021, 04:54:54 PM »
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If you would like me to accept that people would kill each other anyway and that gun policy has nothing to do with homicide rate (a stance the gun lobby has certainly invested large sums of money in, since such a mentality absolves them in any deaths and doesn't threaten arms sales), I would very much like to hear your thoughts on Australia's experience with the same problem:

I'm not saying it doesn't have anything to do with homicide rate, I'm say that it doesn't have enough to do with homicide rate to warrant taking away people's rights.
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Offline the_antithesis

Re: Post your funny pictures here!!! part Deux
« Reply #9737 on: November 21, 2021, 02:29:17 PM »
It was obviously meant as a joke, but some people apparently took it seriously and tried it. lol

What's wrong with this generation in a nutshell.

Probably all generations.

Online Hydra009

Re: Post your funny pictures here!!! part Deux
« Reply #9738 on: November 21, 2021, 10:22:34 PM »
I'm not saying it doesn't have anything to do with homicide rate, I'm say that it doesn't have enough to do with homicide rate to warrant taking away people's rights.
I must've have taken you too literally, I guess.

Anyways, it's not worth bogging down the funny pictures thread with this stuff.

Online Hydra009

Re: Post your funny pictures here!!! part Deux
« Reply #9739 on: November 21, 2021, 10:27:35 PM »

Online Hydra009

Re: Post your funny pictures here!!! part Deux
« Reply #9740 on: November 21, 2021, 10:40:18 PM »
An old meme, but a good one imo:


Online Hydra009

Re: Post your funny pictures here!!! part Deux
« Reply #9741 on: November 22, 2021, 08:13:22 AM »


So it turns out that illiteracy could cure my back aches.  Worth a shot, I guess.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2021, 08:14:59 AM by Hydra009 »

Online Hydra009

Re: Post your funny pictures here!!! part Deux
« Reply #9742 on: November 22, 2021, 09:44:29 AM »


I was *this* close to misclicking and putting it in the Paintings to Muse about thread.  :P

Offline drunkenshoe

Re: Post your funny pictures here!!! part Deux
« Reply #9743 on: November 22, 2021, 11:10:53 AM »
"I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are good people and bad people. You're wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides." Havelock Vetinari

Re: Post your funny pictures here!!! part Deux
« Reply #9744 on: November 22, 2021, 01:59:09 PM »
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville

Online Hydra009

Re: Post your funny pictures here!!! part Deux
« Reply #9745 on: November 22, 2021, 11:04:39 PM »

Offline drunkenshoe

Re: Post your funny pictures here!!! part Deux
« Reply #9746 on: November 23, 2021, 07:02:11 AM »
Does it taste that bad or is it the ingredients?
"I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are good people and bad people. You're wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides." Havelock Vetinari

Offline aitm

Re: Post your funny pictures here!!! part Deux
« Reply #9747 on: November 23, 2021, 07:59:33 AM »
Does it taste that bad or is it the ingredients?

Depends on who you ask. I think Hydras being a little uppity…😏
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Offline drunkenshoe

Re: Post your funny pictures here!!! part Deux
« Reply #9748 on: November 23, 2021, 08:12:05 AM »
Depends on who you ask. I think Hydras being a little uppity…😏

Naah, he can't be. I've seen the stuff he ate in lockdown. :pp
"I believe you find life such a problem because you think there are good people and bad people. You're wrong, of course. There are, always and only, the bad people, but some of them are on opposite sides." Havelock Vetinari

Re: Post your funny pictures here!!! part Deux
« Reply #9749 on: November 23, 2021, 09:06:13 AM »

That's how I drink any and all beer. :))  I have tasted beer from around this country, in central Europe and Sweden.  All taste like elephant piss. If I want to get plastered I drink straight Southern Comfort or bourbon.  But I haven't done that for over 30 years.  I settle for a glass or two of wine these days.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?