Author Topic: How modern Feminism fucked women over  (Read 2972 times)

Offline lilith666 (OP)

How modern Feminism fucked women over
« on: July 21, 2014, 06:42:58 PM »
kay so I moved this issue from my intro thread.  My point was that I'd rather be a stay at home mom, raising my children, watching them grow, taking them on outings, caring for them while they are sick, teaching them social and life skills etc , and have  a husband working rather than working my full time boring banking job which isn't quite as bad as operating a cash register 40 hours a week, but there are many similarities.

 Especially since it's summer time I just wish I could be with my kids. I have no mommy issues. my mom stayed home and cared for me while I had pneumonia and Lyme disease and other sicknesses and helped me with my homework and prepared meals and taught me how to cook.

My dad was a fat and drunk slob.By the way I was not saying everything I said or my opinions were fact. Here are the facts. Women have a different brain than men ,the female body is different than the male body and processes some things differently, as a general rule women are given certain gifts more than average men, certain instincts as well , but there are many exceptions to this rule.

Men are 92% more likely to get injured on the job because overall there is a far greater amount of men who have more dangerous jobs with greater risk of getting killed or maimed or injured.  Female birds and mammals and rodents are given different gifts and instincts and nurturing qualities that the males are not.

 Those are all proven facts and so when I stated them as proven facts, Also was not judging women who do not want to be stay at home moms. I do believe that what radical modern feminist promote In regards to minimizing the good qualities that women have , or saying women are not generally the better nurturers is bullshit , but that statement is not a proven fact but an opinion of mine.

I believe the feminist movement as a whole is an extremely vital and important movement that I'm very grateful for.  But I'm upset about how the modern fanatics are trying to say that women can do anything men can do and are just as qualified for every job or vocation.

. Im sick of how they are always telling women that they are the victims.  SO, do we really want women to be treated exactly like men.  Do feminists want women to have an equal share in a draft like Vietnam for instance and have women come home by the thousands  in body bags, maimed, blind, burnt from head to toe, retarded, disfigured, and in wheelchairs, or have permanent PTSD?  No I'd rather society treated me like a woman and I'd rather be with my children. Im proud of being a woman and I don't need to front like I'm a man.

Evolution hasn't gifted women for different roles?  Okay, so get the best female football team and have them compete with the worst NFL team of the year.  Who are you gonna bet wins five out of five games? How about a competition between the 10 best female weight lifters against 10 Olympic males.  Who are you gonna bet on? Is it even debatable or is it freaking obvious?

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Re: How modern Feminism fucked women over
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2014, 06:45:03 PM »
You sound like you want to be part of a protected class. I find that far more reprehensible than even the most extreme feminist viewpoint.

Re: How modern Feminism fucked women over
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2014, 06:55:50 PM »
I think if you are speaking of a job with minimum physical requirements(firefighter, special forces, etc) then the amount of women capable of doing the job are slim to none. For every other thing, there are women are better than most men at it.

Like I said all the time when in the EOD forces, Im all for equal opportunity but if you can't haul my wounded ass out of a hot zone in full gear you don't fucking belong. I don't give a shit if you are male or female, black white or whatever, if you can't do the fucking job thats it.

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Offline lilith666 (OP)

Re: How modern Feminism fucked women over
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2014, 06:56:11 PM »
I was speaking of women being drafted to do the same military service as men. Also if I was on the Titanic I would admire the chivalrous men that gave the women and children the lifeboats even though it cost them their lives.

Re: How modern Feminism fucked women over
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2014, 06:58:46 PM »
I was speaking of women being drafted to do the same military service as men. Also if I was on the Titanic I would admire the chivalrous men that gave the women and children the lifeboats even though it cost them their lives.

Again if they are physically capable of doing the job why shouldn't they?
Science doesn't give a damn about religions, because "damns" are not measurable units and therefore have no place in research. As soon as it's possible to detect damns, we'll quantize perdition and number all the levels of hell. Until then, science doesn't care.

Re: How modern Feminism fucked women over
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2014, 07:03:41 PM »
kay so I moved this issue from my intro thread.  My point was that I'd rather be a stay at home mom, raising my children, watching them grow, taking them on outings, caring for them while they are sick, teaching them social and life skills etc , and have  a husband working rather than working my full time boring banking job which isn't quite as bad as operating a cash register 40 hours a week, but there are many similarities.

 Especially since it's summer time I just wish I could be with my kids. I have no mommy issues. my mom stayed home and cared for me while I had pneumonia and Lyme disease and other sicknesses and helped me with my homework and prepared meals and taught me how to cook.

My dad was a fat and drunk slob.By the way I was not saying everything I said or my opinions were fact. Here are the facts. Women have a different brain than men ,the female body is different than the male body and processes some things differently, as a general rule women are given certain gifts more than average men, certain instincts as well , but there are many exceptions to this rule.

Men are 92% more likely to get injured on the job because overall there is a far greater amount of men who have more dangerous jobs with greater risk of getting killed or maimed or injured.  Female birds and mammals and rodents are given different gifts and instincts and nurturing qualities that the males are not.

 Those are all proven facts and so when I stated them as proven facts, Also was not judging women who do not want to be stay at home moms. I do believe that what radical modern feminist promote In regards to minimizing the good qualities that women have , or saying women are not generally the better nurturers is bullshit , but that statement is not a proven fact but an opinion of mine.

I believe the feminist movement as a whole is an extremely vital and important movement that I'm very grateful for.  But I'm upset about how the modern fanatics are trying to say that women can do anything men can do and are just as qualified for every job or vocation.

. Im sick of how they are always telling women that they are the victims.  SO, do we really want women to be treated exactly like men.  Do feminists want women to have an equal share in a draft like Vietnam for instance and have women come home by the thousands  in body bags, maimed, blind, burnt from head to toe, retarded, disfigured, and in wheelchairs, or have permanent PTSD?  No I'd rather society treated me like a woman and I'd rather be with my children. Im proud of being a woman and I don't need to front like I'm a man.

Evolution hasn't gifted women for different roles?  Okay, so get the best female football team and have them compete with the worst NFL team of the year.  Who are you gonna bet wins five out of five games? How about a competition between the 10 best female weight lifters against 10 Olympic males.  Who are you gonna bet on? Is it even debatable or is it freaking obvious?


I agree with you, even though for awhile I was a stay at home father. I liked the fact that I was out working for my wife and kids, but the wages got so bad with inflation, woman and men both had to work to take care of a family. When I was a stay at home dad I couldn't imagine why a woman would want to work for anyone but her family. I understand what you mean. But I think it is more because of economics than the women's' movement which started because woman weren't getting paid enough compared to men. Solitary.
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Offline lilith666 (OP)

Re: How modern Feminism fucked women over
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2014, 07:04:48 PM »
if they can but they shouldn't qualify for the draft because 99% of them arent gonna be able to lift a full grown wounded man over their shoulder and carry him to safety.

Offline AllPurposeAtheist

Re: How modern Feminism fucked women over
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2014, 07:05:25 PM »
Well then obviously women shouldn't vote, be allowed to expose body parts that only men can, skip education except baby raising classes, be condemned to backroom abortion if raped or incest and in general enjoy their second class citizenship. My mother and grandmother both raised families, stayed home, but fought tooth and nail for shit you take for granted.
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Offline AllPurposeAtheist

Re: How modern Feminism fucked women over
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2014, 07:07:41 PM »
Wait, they've reinstated the draft including women? Why wasn't I informed?
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Offline lilith666 (OP)

Re: How modern Feminism fucked women over
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2014, 07:19:15 PM »
Wait, they've reinstated the draft including women? Why wasn't I informed?
Here's an idea.. Go see the wizard of Oz in your strawwoman costume.
no I was asking if these modern fanatic feminist who believe that women should be sharing equally in everything that men do, do they want women to have all of those same responsibilities?

Re: How modern Feminism fucked women over
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2014, 07:21:33 PM »
I would note that you are not one of the women who has been victimized either professionally or personally by unfair standards in society or in the workplace. Feminists speak out for a reason. Although, granted, some of what you say is true. There are women who cause more harm than good by being too strident or too unrealistic in their views, but there is a need for a voice in our society for women to speak out.

There is nothing wrong with the concept of feminism. Some women hurt themselves by their behavior, but overall it is a necessary cause and should be recognized.

I was a firefighter. Moral and I are on the same page about women in those roles. Women excel at some aspects of professional jobs that were heretofore strictly owned by men, but certainly I wouldn't want a 110 pound woman trying to haul my 180 pounds+ all my gear out of a fire.
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Offline AllPurposeAtheist

Re: How modern Feminism fucked women over
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2014, 07:22:46 PM »
So modern feminists want to be drafted into war? When the fuck did this shit start?
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Offline lilith666 (OP)

Re: How modern Feminism fucked women over
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2014, 08:24:37 PM »
I would encourage people to recognize in my opening post how I said  feminism is a very vital and importat movement.

yes all women are indebted to the good that the feminist movement has done.  Yet the radicals seem to not really care about the good qualities women have been given and they see a woman who becomes a CEO as more honorable than a woman who is a kick ass mother.

I have known feminazis that are so fanatical as to think someone who prefers to be a traditional stay at home mom who strongly prefers to be there for her children as much as possible as a shame, disgrace, and even a traitor to feminists.

Offline AllPurposeAtheist

Re: How modern Feminism fucked women over
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2014, 10:52:15 PM »
And your point? Every segment of society has its share of nitwits, extremists and frauds bent on discrediting the accomplishments of others. Did it ever occur to you these people might be agenda driven to discredit feminists?  Every movement has someone working to undermine it and use plants to muddy the waters.
We could flip it to undermine fathers in general by saying there are deadbeat dads and the argument of actually supporting your kids is for naught and there are groups that do just that such as MRA's.. Incidentally my initials are MRA.
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Re: How modern Feminism fucked women over
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2014, 11:00:28 PM »
You sound like you want to be part of a protected class. I find that far more reprehensible than even the most extreme feminist viewpoint.
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