You keep repeating that^. Too bad it doesn't have any validity.
I repeat it and will continue to repeat it because it is central to the dispute. It's not something you can gloss over as irrelevant.
Neither Arab nor Jew can claim the entire area as there own and since they cannot get along the area was partitioned.
Do you understand the meaning of indigenous people?
I do. Even today, they are digging up documents that are thousands of years old written in Hebrew.
Are you saying that Arabs are indigenous and Jews are not?
We have arrived this point because USA AND ISRAEL PREVENTED ANY REAL RESOLUTION.
We have arrived at this point because Arabs got 2/3 of the British Palestinian mandate but would settle for nothing less than 100%. We have arrived at this point because the Arabs refused to acknowledge the right of other people to exist.
Had the Arabs said OK to any of the many proposal that were put forward there would be no problem. But it was 100% or nothing in their eyes.
Because US wants the region as fucked up as possible and Israel gets anything out of it AND they keep invading land. And what they are doing is ILLEGAL. Thread is full of links and charts reports on what has Israel been doing. Your fucking bias and hatred is not enough to cover that.
I could just as easily accuse you of bias against the jews by ignoring the historical facts I've pointed out.
I've already agreed that the Jews are responding to violence and fanaticism with violence and fanaticism. What you are missing is that it's a RESPONSE.
For example, the recent murder of the palestinian boy. It was horrible and the perpetrators need to be punished. But if you simply ignore that just previously three jewish boys were murdered you are missing the bigger picture.
The answer is to everything 'oh because it's Islam'' Yeah.
Islam is a noxious and violent ideology. I don't lump all religion together like many liberals because the results vary. Some are much more violent than others and islam tops the list. Arab muslims kill each other as well as anyone else in their vicinity, Jews included. If you want to leave out the obvious influence of this violent belief system in this conflict then you're making a serious mistake.
'Israelis' act exactly the same as Arabs.
Not even close.
They defend themselves in sometimes extreme manners. They are surrounded and outnumbered by several orders of magnitude by violent fanatics and yet you think they are the ones to blame . They have taken land in wars AND given it back! They have also illegally settled in areas they should not as people in those areas plot their destruction and continuously fire rockets into their land.
I am sick of having conversations with people who cannot think further two propaganda lines.
Then take a deep breath and relax. I'm not your mortal enemy. I'm just a guy who disagrees with you on this ONE topic.
Muslims have 99 times more land and population than the Jews and you want to convince us that it's the jews causing all the problems? And you want to make this argument while the muslims are acting out towards everyone (including each other) with hatred and violence?
Yeah, blame the jews. No one has done that before.