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Offline Mal93 (OP)

atheist in saudi
« on: May 30, 2014, 08:38:48 PM »
hello,,

I’m an ex Muslim, born and brought up in Saudi Arabia, in the south (which is even worse).

My family are open minded people (in the lines of Islam), for example they are okay with women having the chose to wear the hijab or not, but they are not “pro-choice”. I was always five steps more liberal than my family and friends.

In school 40% of our subjects ware religion and the other subjects like science god were mentioned 50% of the time. Of course i always was good at religious studies due to the fact i always were looking for ways to understand the ridiculous things that i couldn’t be okay with. And ask myself questions such as why is it if slave runs away from his master he gets killed? Or why the slave women couldn't wear hijab and get hit for doing that? It just didn’t feel right at all.

I hated the fact that if someone gets killed the murderer gets to pay the family off, and if the victim is a woman he pays half of what he would pays for a man. And if the victim is slave he pays half of what he pays for a free person.

i think the fact that i am black and female who lives in SA also contributed to me become an atheist later, in fact i love that i lived in a town in south of SA for the first 18 years of my life, because i was always so different to them (i'm not even Saudi) made the idea of becoming atheist not that hard.

on the day that i became atheist i was googling " how to not be scared of flying" i hate airplanes :), and i came across an article about of how people think because children are on the plane surely god would not allow it to crash and about how they should save their prayers to nature at least it has something to do with it.

It was the first time I read something like that I felt weird about it, you need to understand that the only thing I knew about atheist was from school and that was that they worshiped nature.

So I googled that and came across an atheist forum for ex Muslims I spent hours reading and reading by the end of that day I was an atheist it didn’t even take me 24 hours.
 
Of course after that came the time of worries if I made the right decision or not which caused me to read more and more and every day after that I knew that I have made the best decision that I could have made for myself and for my life.

I have been happily atheist for 4 years from the age of 16.

(I do apologies for my English I know it’s not perfect I’m working on it :D)
« Last Edit: May 30, 2014, 08:40:26 PM by Mal93 »

Re: atheist in saudi
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2014, 08:52:52 PM »
Hello and welcome, you are not the first Saudi atheist to join this forum.

Have you heard of the Council of ex muslims?
www.councilofexmuslims.com

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Re: atheist in saudi
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2014, 09:09:41 PM »
(I do apologies for my English I know it’s not perfect I’m working on it :D)
No worries. Most of your mistakes were the same ones a lot of native speakers make.

Re: atheist in saudi
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2014, 09:34:41 PM »
Welcome! You're quite brave for even coming to this site. I hope you do well to hide your internet history, as I wouldn't want any harm to come upon you. You have room to improve on your English, but you are for the most part understandable.
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Re: atheist in saudi
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2014, 09:45:26 PM »
Welcome, Mal! :)

It's a pleasure to have you here, but please be safe
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Re: atheist in saudi
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2014, 10:44:40 PM »
I don't think she is still in SA...she said the first 18 years was in SA.

Re: atheist in saudi
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2014, 11:15:24 PM »
It was the first time I read something like that I felt weird about it, you need to understand that the only thing I knew about atheist was from school and that was that they worshiped nature.
As far as stereotypes go, that one's not so bad.  Nature is pretty much everything there is, so it's definitely a point of interest, but actually worship it?  Nah.

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So I googled that and came across an atheist forum for ex Muslims I spent hours reading and reading by the end of that day I was an atheist it didn’t even take me 24 hours.
Fast service is just a small part of the package deal.  There's also no money down and no subscription fee because we're a non-prophet organization.  :razz:
 
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Of course after that came the time of worries if I made the right decision or not which caused me to read more and more and every day after that I knew that I have made the best decision that I could have made for myself and for my life.
Just curious, what have you read?

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Re: atheist in saudi
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2014, 06:32:21 AM »
Welcome to the forum, I wish you safety
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Offline Mal93 (OP)

Re: atheist in saudi
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2014, 12:13:57 PM »
Hello and welcome, you are not the first Saudi atheist to join this forum.

Have you heard of the Council of ex muslims?
www.councilofexmuslims.com

thank you,, actually I'm not from SA, I'm from Somalia.

No worries. Most of your mistakes were the same ones a lot of native speakers make.

Welcome! You're quite brave for even coming to this site. I hope you do well to hide your internet history, as I wouldn't want any harm to come upon you. You have room to improve on your English, but you are for the most part understandable.

Welcome, Mal! :)

It's a pleasure to have you here, but please be safe

I don't think she is still in SA...she said the first 18 years was in SA.

actually i am not living in SA anymore, but even when i was there i did use many Arab atheists groups and forums..if you don't write your real name you'll be okay. Arab atheist are a lot :D

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Just curious, what have you read?

most of the things that i read at first was about Islam and it was in Arabic and then books about theories and scientific knowledge.

Welcome to the forum, I wish you safety

Welcome. :) Be careful, be safe.

You shouldn't apologise to a bunch of people because you can't use their mother language perfectly. They can't either. They also have no idea of yours. ;)

E. Mal, why don't you change the title of this thread to just 'Hello', instead of 'atheist in saudi'?

thanks, but i am studying in English so i would love to improve it and that is one of the reasons of me being here :D

Re: atheist in saudi
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2014, 06:24:37 PM »
thanks, but i am studying in English so i would love to improve it and that is one of the reasons of me being here :D
It looks like you have the basic structure down pat, but there's always time to practice slang and swear words.  :P

(but to really sound like a native, you'll have to mispel more, uses apostrophe's everywere and end setnences like this...)

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Re: atheist in saudi
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2014, 06:53:55 PM »
It looks like you have the basic structure down pat, but there's always time to practice slang and swear words.  :P

(but to really sound like a native, you'll have to mispel more, uses apostrophe's everywere and end setnences like this...)
slang and swear words are the best part! :biggrin:

One of my favorites is the Australian slang use for the word "root". (thanks, Wilfred)

But yeah, Mal. You are very understandable and already have the language down better than some adults in the U. S. :)

Always room for improvement...  For anyone and anything :)

Sent via your mom.

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Offline Mr.Obvious

Re: atheist in saudi
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2014, 02:38:07 AM »
Welcome Mal, I hope you'll like it here.
Your english is decent enough, as someone who doesn't speak english as his first language either, I can still understand it well enough.
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Re: atheist in saudi
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2014, 07:20:41 PM »
Welcome to the forum ! a Somali who lived in SA. I suppose that it wasn't easy for you to live there as a black. (In my knowledge racism is a common thing in Arabs Islamic Countries).

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Re: atheist in saudi
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2014, 08:44:41 PM »
Welcome, I echo everyone here who hopes you are careful...I thought we had a link to a proxy that you could use that would hide your location....I will have to look for it, don't wait for me to find it....sometimes I pee before I get to the potty...
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Re: atheist in saudi
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2014, 07:08:17 AM »
A book every Arab woman needs to read, and women and humanity in general. "Infidel" By Ayaan Hersi Ali. It is her story about her escape from Islam and the death threats she still lives under today for her criticism of the treatment of women in Islam. Unfortunately Arab Muslims think they are being singled out. India has a huge rape problem and even in the west, our Christian right is constantly attacking the rights of women.

Any religion or culture that cant or wont allow girls/women to make their own life choices deserves nothing but scorn and contempt.
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