Author Topic: What has greater value, Religion Or A Loved One?  (Read 753 times)

Offline Solitary (OP)

What has greater value, Religion Or A Loved One?
« on: May 27, 2014, 11:33:33 AM »
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/family-stones-pakistani-woman-death-honor-killing-outside-court-n115336



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Family Stones Pakistani Woman to Death in 'Honor Killing' Outside Court
LAHORE, Pakistan - A 25-year-old woman was stoned to death by her family outside one of Pakistan's top courts on Tuesday in a so-called "honor" killing for marrying the man she loved, police said.
Farzana Iqbal was waiting for the High Court in the eastern city of Lahore to open when a group of around dozen men began attacking her with bricks, said Umer Cheema, a senior police officer.

Her father, two brothers and former fiance were among the attackers, he said. Iqbal suffered severe head injuries and was pronounced dead in the hospital, police said.

All the suspects except her father escaped. He admitted killing his daughter, Cheema said, and explained it was a matter of honor. Many Pakistani families think a woman marrying her own choice of man brings dishonor on the family.

Iqbal had been engaged to her cousin but married another man, Cheema said. Her family registered a kidnapping case against him but Iqbal had come to court to argue that she had married of her own free will, he said.

Around 1,000 Pakistani women are killed every year by their families in honor killings, according to Pakistani rights group the Aurat Foundation.

The true figure is probably many times higher since the Aurat Foundation only compiles figures from newspaper reports. The government does not compile national statistics.

Campaigners say few cases come to court, and those that do can take years to be heard. No one tracks how many cases are successfully prosecuted.

Even those that do result in a conviction may end with the killers walking free. Pakistani law allows a victim's family to forgive their killer.

But in honour killings, most of the time the women's killers are her family, said Wasim Wagha of the Aurat Foundation. The law allows them to nominate someone to do the murder, then forgive him.


"This is a huge flaw in the law," he said. "We are really struggling on this issue."
- Reuters
What in the hell is wrong when a person values their honor more than a loved one? Where is there honor in that? This religion along with sharia law is insane. Only religion can make honor more important than a person's loved ones, or make God a higher value and more important. Talk about fucked up value judgments.  :oak: Solitary   
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Re: What has greater value, Religion Or A Loved One?
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2014, 11:37:34 AM »
Yeah. I was bsically turned out by my family when I left Mormonism. You hear stories all the time, including on here, of people who have been shunned by families for becoming atheists. If stoning were still part of the religious tradition here it would happen here.

Offline Solitary (OP)

Re: What has greater value, Religion Or A Loved One?
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2014, 11:45:14 AM »
And Christians wonder why we don't want a Christian or Mormon theocracy that values God more than people, especially if they are different and don't fit into the Christian or Mormon ideal from superstitious nonsense. Religion, not Eve, is the downfall of man.  :madu: Solitary
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Offline AllPurposeAtheist

Re: What has greater value, Religion Or A Loved One?
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2014, 01:46:49 PM »
So much for human progress and Miss America buying the whole world a puppy,  huh?
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Offline Solitary (OP)

Re: What has greater value, Religion Or A Loved One?
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2014, 07:09:04 PM »
Why is it that if a handsome man rapes a woman she is degraded, but if a woman rapes a man he is king of the hill?  :think:
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Offline StupidWiz

Re: What has greater value, Religion Or A Loved One?
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2014, 07:49:45 PM »
Religion of course.  :oak:
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Re: What has greater value, Religion Or A Loved One?
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2014, 04:40:28 PM »
Why is it that if a handsome man rapes a woman she is degraded, but if a woman rapes a man he is king of the hill?  :think:

If a woman rapes a man, he will be told how lucky he is no matter how unlucky he feels.
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Offline Solitary (OP)

Re: What has greater value, Religion Or A Loved One?
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2014, 04:50:23 PM »
That really depends on the woman!  :drool: or  :axe:  If any are offended, woman and girls old enough carry a bucket of water, you are sex objects whether you like it or not if you are attractive.  :flowers: :syda: Solitary.
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Re: What has greater value, Religion Or A Loved One?
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2014, 05:00:43 PM »
Freedom, love and everything we can determine leads to productive societies and personal happiness = DISHONOR!

Murdering your children in horrible ways, oppressing and destroying everything that's "good" and just being a violent, sadistic monster in general = HONOR!

Logic 101, people.