AR-Gov: Asa Hutchinson (R) Turned Away from Polls Because of Voter ID Law

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Solitary

http://www.click2houston.com/news/Politics/new-laws-make-voting-difficult-for-some-citizens/26792002

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Edna Griggs keenly remembers the anger and outrage she felt during the 2012 general election when she watched as African-American senior citizens were forced to wait in long lines in the Houston heat as they queued up to vote at the Acres Homes Multi-Service Center.

A member of her local NAACP chapter, Griggs says she was told that she couldn't bring them water to drink or chairs to rest in.

"A poll watcher approached me and said, 'What are you doing?' He told me I couldn't do that. They thought we were trying to sway their votes by giving them water," she said. "It was really sad to me because it was like a reflection of the stories I heard from my grandmother and mother when they had to pay to vote. It was a reflection of everything our people have gone through."

Griggs is one of the plaintiffs in a NAACP lawsuit about new Texas voting identification laws, regulations that are considered by some civil rights and liberties groups as among the nation's most restrictive.

Civil rights groups in that state, and others, fear that election officials and poll watchers, empowered by those new laws will ratchet up the level of discrimination against minority voters.

"We've had a serious problem with elected officials discriminating against Latino and African-American voters. It's obvious that many officials cannot be expected to treat these voters fairly," said Gary Bledsoe, an attorney and president of the Texas NAACP. "When you give them more power to reject black and Latino voters at the polls, that power will be exercised and the discrimination escalated."

Texas voting officials have said the state's new photo voter identification law will help tamp down fraud.
"The U.S. Supreme Court has already ruled that voter ID laws do not suppress legal votes, but do help prevent illegal votes," Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott said last year, according to media reports.

The hunt for fraud
When they head to the polls in this fall's midterm elections, some voters in nearly half of the country will find it a lot tougher to cast ballots due to new voting laws, according to a new report by the Brennan Center for Justice. It is a legal think tank at New York University School of Law that has criticized the increase in what it sees as prohibitive voting measures.

Most of the laws were approved by Republican-dominated legislatures and in states that saw greater minority voter turnout in the 2008 and 2012 general elections, the report found.

Civil rights groups and voting rights advocates see the spate of new laws as a way to disenfranchise and intimidate minority voters and suppress turnout during high-stakes elections. Others support the changes and see the laws as the best way to preserve integrity in the voting process.

Such groups as the grassroots Voter Integrity Project in North Carolina and True the Vote, a conservative group in Texas, supports citizen enforcement of the new voter laws, acts that often mean sifting through voter rolls and pounding on doors in search of fraud.

True the Vote announced this week that it is suing the Mississippi secretary of state and that state's Republican Party over the right to look at the poll books and ballots in order to ensure that Democratic primary voters didn't also illegally vote in last month's Republican primary runoff. In Mississippi, voters who don't cast ballots in a primary election can vote in either party's runoff.

Mississippi state Sen. Chris McDaniel, who lost a bitter runoff against incumbent Republican Sen. Thad Cochran last month, is citing what he sees as "illegal" and "unethical" behavior among African-American Democrats who cast ballots for the veteran lawmaker.

McDaniel said many of those voters participated in the Democratic primary and shouldn't have been allowed to vote in the Republican runoff.

"True the Vote has been inundated with reports from voters across Mississippi who are outraged to see the integrity of this election being undermined so that politicos can get back to business as usual. Enough is enough," True the Vote President Catherine Engelbrecht said in statement.

Tough new laws
The nation's new crop of voting laws run the gamut from dialing back early voting hours to new requirements for photo identification to stricter rules for voter registration.

A few examples:
In Georgia, Republican lawmakers voted in 2001 to cut the early voting period down from 45 to 21 days, and nixed early voting the weekend before Election Day.

In North Carolina: The GOP-controlled legislature did away with same-day registration, reduced the early voting period and put in place a photo ID requirement, among other changes. Those provisions are the subject of a court challenge and could go to trial next year.

In Ohio, the Republican-dominated legislature this year approved measures nixing the so-called "Golden Week," a period in which voters could both register and cast early ballots during the same trip to the polls. Those cuts are the subject of a lawsuit.

In Texas, which also has a GOP-controlled legislature, a new photo identification requirement went into effect for the first time this year. In 2011, a law which bans voter registration drives --- a method that is often used to target potential voters in poor neighborhoods and on college campuses --- went into effect.

And, in at least seven states, including Arizona, Arkansas and North Carolina, suits challenging new voting restrictions are wending their way through state and federal courts and could potentially impact the outcome of the 2014 elections.
"The rules of the game"

This is all follows a U.S. Supreme Court decision last year striking down provisions of the Voting Rights Act, which required a number of states --- many of them in the South --- to get clearance from the Justice Department before changing their voting laws.

Without that protection, voting rights advocates say, in states with a history of discriminatory voting practices against racial minorities those who seek to unduly influence elections will find it easier to suppress votes.

"We have seen a dramatic increase in politicians trying to manipulate the rules of the game in terms of making it harder for citizens to vote," said Myrna Perez, a senior counsel at NYU's Brennan Center for Justice.

The flurry of new and more restrictive voter laws coincided with the 2010 elections and new Republican majorities that came into power, Perez said.
There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.

Nam

Quote from: Alaric I on July 10, 2014, 03:22:15 AM

Exactly VIRTUALLY a myth.  To think it doesn't go on at all is ignorance.  You still have yet to provide any evidence to support your claim that these laws are all about preventing certain people from voting.  You can't help me because instead of either admit it's conjecture or provide evidence to support your claim you'd rather try tonsure straw man.

I never said it never happened. What I said was it doesn't happen so much in these individual places that a law is needed to combatant the very few times it does.

Stop being stupid.

-Nam
Mad cow disease...it's not just for cows, or the mad!

Alaric I

Quote from: Nam on July 10, 2014, 01:09:02 PM
I never said it never happened. What I said was it doesn't happen so much in these individual places that a law is needed to combatant the very few times it does.

Stop being stupid.

-Nam

So now instead of providing evidence we are going to go to ad hom attacks?

Nam

Quote from: Alaric I on July 10, 2014, 03:30:41 PM
So now instead of providing evidence we are going to go to ad hom attacks?

I provided evidence, you felt it wasn't evidence. I provided two links that stated as far back as 2007 (7 years ago) that, even from Republicans (Forbes is a Republican magazine/organization) that stated voter fraud is virtually non-existent. So, there can only be two reasons why someone would enact a law that effects virtually no one in concern to voting: either incompetence or voter suppression.

Only person here attacking anyone is you towards us with your flagrant stupidity.

-Nam
Mad cow disease...it's not just for cows, or the mad!

Alaric I

Quote from: Nam on July 10, 2014, 03:46:43 PM
I provided evidence, you felt it wasn't evidence. I provided two links that stated as far back as 2007 (7 years ago) that, even from Republicans (Forbes is a Republican magazine/organization) that stated voter fraud is virtually non-existent. So, there can only be two reasons why someone would enact a law that effects virtually no one in concern to voting: either incompetence or voter suppression.

Only person here attacking anyone is you towards us with your flagrant stupidity.

-Nam

No, I stated you are saying these laws are set up to prevent certain types of people from voting.  I have stated this is conjecture and to provide proof this is the reason for the laws.  You insist what gave me is proof but it is not and then personally attack me because can't provide the evidence.

Nam

Quote from: Alaric I on July 10, 2014, 06:22:23 PM
No, I stated you are saying these laws are set up to prevent certain types of people from voting.  I have stated this is conjecture and to provide proof this is the reason for the laws.  You insist what gave me is proof but it is not and then personally attack me because can't provide the evidence.

Why would someone create a law on something that is virtually nonexistent? What is the point of doing that?

Who does it benefit?

-Nam
Mad cow disease...it's not just for cows, or the mad!

Alaric I

Quote from: Nam on July 10, 2014, 06:38:16 PM
Why would someone create a law on something that is virtually nonexistent? What is the point of doing that?

Who does it benefit?

-Nam

Quit trying to dodge the question.  We aren't discussing if it's smart, do you have evidence or do you admit it's pure conjecture that these laws were enacted to stop certain people from voting?

Nam

Quote from: Alaric I on July 10, 2014, 06:45:19 PM
Quit trying to dodge the question.  We aren't discussing if it's smart, do you have evidence or do you admit it's pure conjecture that these laws were enacted to stop certain people from voting?

I'm not dodging anything. You are ignoring what I have stated, what others have stated such as Reimu and Solitary -- do you need constant repetitious commenting by people? Do I have to go cite every single thing where these laws effect old people, opposite parties, non-white people (some white people of the same party)? It's been done -- you ignore it.

You're the only one dodging here -- dodging the reality of these laws and why they are implemented in this modern era.

-Nam
Mad cow disease...it's not just for cows, or the mad!

Alaric I

Quote from: Nam on July 10, 2014, 08:10:38 PM
I'm not dodging anything. You are ignoring what I have stated, what others have stated such as Reimu and Solitary -- do you need constant repetitious commenting by people? Do I have to go cite every single thing where these laws effect old people, opposite parties, non-white people (some white people of the same party)? It's been done -- you ignore it.

You're the only one dodging here -- dodging the reality of these laws and why they are implemented in this modern era.

-Nam

It hasn't been done.  Nobody has provided any evidence to prove that the laws were made to prohibit certain people from voting like you say they were.  So now to answer an earlier question, it must be propaganda as you refuse to provide any evidence to support your claim.  You have thouroughly convinced me this is all because people like you will believe whatever your party tells you to believe, preying on your weak minds and complete willingness to submit to them.

Nam

Quote from: Alaric I on July 10, 2014, 09:42:25 PM
It hasn't been done.  Nobody has provided any evidence to prove that the laws were made to prohibit certain people from voting like you say they were.  So now to answer an earlier question, it must be propaganda as you refuse to provide any evidence to support your claim.  You have thouroughly convinced me this is all because people like you will believe whatever your party tells you to believe, preying on your weak minds and complete willingness to submit to them.

The only evidence that would satisfy you is the people who passed the laws saying that's why they did it. Do you really think they are that stupid? Apparently you think that "we" think they are that stupid.

You're not looking for evidence.

-Nam
Mad cow disease...it's not just for cows, or the mad!

Alaric I

Quote from: Nam on July 10, 2014, 10:48:13 PM
The only evidence that would satisfy you is the people who passed the laws saying that's why they did it. Do you really think they are that stupid? Apparently you think that "we" think they are that stupid.

You're not looking for evidence.

-Nam

Once again pure conjecture, yet you still refuse to provide any evidence and point me to "fraud isn't very widespread."  When you can support your point without conjecture and straw man come back and see me.

Nam

Quote from: Alaric I on July 10, 2014, 10:58:23 PM
Once again pure conjecture, yet you still refuse to provide any evidence and point me to "fraud isn't very widespread."  When you can support your point without conjecture and straw man come back and see me.

I can't help you. No one here can. Everything to you is "conjecture". As I said: only thing that will satisfy you is the lawmakers who put through these laws coming out and saying that's why they did it.

Good luck with that.

-Nam
Mad cow disease...it's not just for cows, or the mad!

Hydra009

Quote from: Nam on July 10, 2014, 11:15:37 PMI can't help you. No one here can. Everything to you is "conjecture".
One would think he would simply put two and two together and figure out why a party that typically does better with lower turnout would push through a measure making it more difficult to vote.

Edit - maybe this could help, though I'm not holding my breath.

Nam

Quote from: Hydra009 on July 11, 2014, 12:20:31 AM
One would think he would simply put two and two together and figure out why a party that typically does better with lower turnout would push through a measure making it more difficult to vote.

Edit - maybe this could help, though I'm not holding my breath.

Especially since he's most likely one of them.

-Nam
Mad cow disease...it's not just for cows, or the mad!

Berati

Quote from: Alaric I on July 10, 2014, 10:58:23 PM
Once again pure conjecture, yet you still refuse to provide any evidence and point me to "fraud isn't very widespread."  When you can support your point without conjecture and straw man come back and see me.
Wake up! The evidence is all over the place if you just open your eyes and look.

http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=9122051
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/12/17/3074691/voter-fraud-iowa/
http://miamitimesonline.com/news/2014/jan/09/study-voter-suppression-laws-unfairly-target-black/
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/08/15/2475561/colorado-gessler-zero-illegal-voters/


You're kind of disingenuous "oh please...I just want to see evidence" is such a lie. You don't give a crap about evidence so why pretend?
I
Carl Sagan
"It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."