at what point is conformity to laws against your philosophy of atheism?

[phattmatt]

Of really?

So would be the difference?

Oh, right.

Nothing.

Don't start backpedaling behind semantics. Who are you trying to impress? Some chick? Just jump off a second floor balcony like everybody else.

there are atheists with different philosophies and opinions about what is ethical.

I think people that rape and sodomise children should be dismembered and their eyes plucked out and replaced by their testicles.

[AllPurposeAtheist]

Except they don't do that. Pedophiles go to jail, lay low,  do their time, get out and go right on to living underground.  What you want and reality are not always the same thing.

[Shiranu]

there are atheists with different philosophies and opinions about what is ethical.

I think people that rape and sodomise children should be dismembered and their eyes plucked out and replaced by their testicles.

I think you are a terrible person.

[phattmatt]

We all have our faults.  I dont like child rapers or child killers.  They ruin those poor kids for a lifetime.  I guess id rather they were put out of their misery quickly rather than tortured but I hate them.  I would never desire that they nbe burning in hell for eternity so I'm more kind than god

[Jason78]

We all have our faults.  I dont like child rapers or child killers.

What did they ever do to you?

[phattmatt]

Fotunately never been alone with them.  Ive had creeps come on to me and there was some middle aged guy that offered to give me a ride to work who touched my crotch and asked if we would hook up.  I pushed his hand away and told him I was straight.  He was probably a good person cuz he could have gotten away hitting me over the head with a crow bar, put me in hancuffs, ducttaped the mouth, and molested and murdered me and thrown the body in the mountains of montana for the wild beadts to eat.

I dont think he was a child rapist but a lonely homosexual.

[the_antithesis]

there are atheists with different philosophies and opinions about what is ethical.

Then that's not a philosophy of atheism, is it?

[phattmatt]

An example would be if you wrote a constitution on what atheism means to you personally, what is ethical for an atheist, how an atheist should behave, how an atheist shouldnt behave, what an atheist should approve or dissaprove of, who an atheist should not vote for or donate to, which forms of government an atheist should be in favor of etc.

[the_antithesis]

...what is ethical for an atheist, how an atheist should behave, how an atheist shouldnt behave, what an atheist should approve or dissaprove of, who an atheist should not vote for or donate to, which forms of government an atheist should be in favor of etc.

Again, these are all nonsensical questions because the only common element between atheists is a lack of belief in gods.

May as well ask what is ethical for carbon based life forms.

[phattmatt]

What part of "your personal philosophy" do u not understand?

Fine!  Fuck it!  I regret making this thread

[DunkleSeele]

Matt, what you don't understand is that atheism in itself doesn't dictate anything. Atheism is just the lack of belief in god(s).

Now look at the thread title: you ask about our "philosophy of atheism"; that's right, you don't ask about our personal worldviews, you imply that our atheism in some ways dictates them. In other words, you make the same mistake as most theists do, that is, they consider atheism as another form of religion or belief.

[phattmatt]

Matt, what you don't understand is that atheism in itself doesn't dictate anything. Atheism is just the lack of belief in god(s).

Now look at the thread title: you ask about our "philosophy of atheism"; that's right, you don't ask about our personal worldviews, you imply that our atheism in some ways dictates them. In other words, you make the same mistake as most theists do, that is, they consider atheism as another form of religion or belief.

Should an Atheist vote for a fanatic Catholic/fundamentalist politician because they like his/her views on the right to bear firearms?

[Poison Tree]

Should an Atheist vote for a fanatic Catholic/fundamentalist politician because they like his/her views on the right to bear firearms?

If finding a politician who shares his/her views on the right to bear arms in his/her utmost concern and the fanatic Catholic/fundamentalist politician is the only one who shares them, then yes.

[doorknob]

time to coin in again.

You're asking an impossible question because there is no philosophy of atheism. Now if you want individual answers from each individual on their opinion of what that philosophy should be if it even could be that's a different story. And I suspect  that's what you actually wanted.

My personal standards are

to be kind to others
Give other people the benefit of the doubt because you really don't know what some one else is experiencing at the moment.
I also advise giving to secular charities because not every one was born with the same privileges and there are also people who screwed up and need a hand up to get back on their feet.
I also generally give what ever money I can to any one who asks me for it.

 Now I'm not saying run around and give all your money away! I'm just saying if some one asks for change and it won't harm you to give it to them, then give it to them.
And avoid being an ass hole as much as possible because it proves to religious people that atheists are all ass holes.

 I know they will go on believing that any how but I try my hardest to give examples where they are wrong as much as possible.
Educate your self as much as possible.
Don't take other peoples advice only you know what's right for you.

Well that's my list for now. Sorry about all the horrible grammar.

Any one can disagree with me!

[phattmatt]

time to coin in again.

You're asking an impossible question because there is no philosophy of atheism. Now if you want individual answers from each individual on their opinion of what that philosophy should be if it even could be that's a different story. And I suspect  that's what you actually wanted.

My personal standards are

to be kind to others
Give other people the benefit of the doubt because you really don't know what some one else is experiencing at the moment.
I also advise giving to secular charities because not every one was born with the same privileges and there are also people who screwed up and need a hand up to get back on their feet.
I also generally give what ever money I can to any one who asks me for it.

 Now I'm not saying run around and give all your money away! I'm just saying if some one asks for change and it won't harm you to give it to them, then give it to them.
And avoid being an ass hole as much as possible because it proves to religious people that atheists are all ass holes.

 I know they will go on believing that any how but I try my hardest to give examples where they are wrong as much as possible.
Educate your self as much as possible.
Don't take other peoples advice only you know what's right for you.

Well that's my list for now. Sorry about all the horrible grammar.

Any one can disagree with me!

how cute!

No I know atheists aren't always assholes.  There are a lot of christians who ate asshole.

That is so kind of u to practice the golden rule without expecting reward in heaven.  I gave you a like sweety :p