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Started by zarus tathra, May 05, 2014, 11:01:59 AM

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zarus tathra

I'm picking up a larger trend from Marvel of demonizing transhumanism. Pretty much everyone who gets a power-up who isn't Spider-Man is portrayed as EVIL, and unlike the original series, they go through all kinds of weird plot voodoo to make the main villains look bad.

[spoiler]Sure, the Lizard killed Captain Stacey, but that was after he froze him with liquid nitrogen and tried to blow his head off with a freaking shotgun. He wasn't even trying to do anything that would kill people, he was just distributing transformation gas that would make people immortal. Yes, they'd look like lizards, but that's not something you kill people over.

Electro wanted to control the power grid. OMG so scary.

If Spider-Man just gave Harry Osborne his blood, the whole business with Gwen Stacey dying would have never happened. Harry was right, if he didn't get SOME form of treatment, then he'd die. So there wasn't any real risk in giving him some blood. Not to mention that they could have tested the blood's interaction with tissue samples before actually injecting him with it. There were a lot of options that didn't involve just leaving Harry to die or going YOLO and injecting him with it.

Plus, if the Green Goblin armor had magic injury healing powers, WHY THE FUCK DID NORMAN OSBORN NOT TRY THAT ON HIMSELF? Obviously, we can see from Harry's status at the end of the movie that the system works. God damn supervillains are dumb.[/spoiler]
?"Belief is always most desired, most pressingly needed, when there is a lack of will." -Friedrich Nietzsche

Ideals are imperfect. Morals are self-serving.

Gawdzilla Sama

We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

stromboli

Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on May 05, 2014, 11:10:19 AM
No spoilers, okay?

Seriously. I won't see the fucking movie anyway, but seriously.

stromboli

I'm going to start an "I didn't watch this movie so don't tell me about it" thread.

GrinningYMIR

Fuck, well that joins BSG, TOR, and the red wedding on my spoiler list
"Human history is a litany of blood shed over differing ideals of rulership and afterlife"<br /><br />Governor of the 32nd Province of the New Lunar Republic. Luna Nobis Custodit

zarus tathra

?"Belief is always most desired, most pressingly needed, when there is a lack of will." -Friedrich Nietzsche

Ideals are imperfect. Morals are self-serving.

the_antithesis

I hate to tell you, guys, but Gwen Stacy dying is about as much of a spoiler as Peter Parker getting spider powers.

DYING IS THE ENTIRETY OF HER FUCKING CHARACTER. SHE HAS NO OTHER REASON TO EXIST EXCEPT TO DIE AND GIVE SPIDER-MAN A SAD.

It's not a spoiler. It would be a spoiler if she didn't die. Complaining about this is like complaining when someone tells you that Anakin Skywalker becomes Darth Vader today.

stromboli

Anakin becomes Darth Vader? NOOOOOOOO...........!

GrinningYMIR

I knew she died, I just didn't know what Electro was up to
"Human history is a litany of blood shed over differing ideals of rulership and afterlife"<br /><br />Governor of the 32nd Province of the New Lunar Republic. Luna Nobis Custodit

the_antithesis

#9
Quote from: GrinningYMIR on May 05, 2014, 11:33:32 AM
I knew she died, I just didn't know what Electro was up to
I just re-read the spoiler.
He's up to bugger all.
Sorry if that ruins the movie for you.

Remember when Electro was just a twat in a stupid looking green and yellow costume who would just rob banks and shit?

What the fuck happened to that guy, huh? Stealing shit not good enough for you kids? Everyone has to take over the world or become Lawnmower Man? Da fuck, I say, da fuck.

stromboli

The greatest movie experience I ever had was on Boot Furlough in San Diego. I was a Mormon boy who had never seen a naked woman. I had only a little bit of money and I went into a porn theater that a triple feature for $1. Black and white and grainy film, but sitting there watching 2 women go down on each other and then a hung black guy doing 2 white chicks. My life was forever changed.

stromboli

[spoiler]This is a spoiler. Just saying. [/spoiler]

Gawdzilla Sama

We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers

the_antithesis

Quote from: Gawdzilla Sama on May 05, 2014, 01:56:42 PM
Angsty "heroes" annoy me.

You haven't liked super heroes since 1986, then.

Gawdzilla Sama

Quote from: the_antithesis on May 05, 2014, 02:25:46 PM
You haven't liked super heroes since 1986, then.
Actually, 1966. Last time I read a comic book.
We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
PZ Myers