Author Topic: How do I cease to exist?  (Read 7754 times)

Offline DunkleSeele

Re: How do I cease to exist?
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2014, 04:14:11 AM »
i hate to break it to you but you can't not exist. It's impossible. There is no such thing as death. You are immortal. Existence is the one thing you can't run away from, your only option is to face existence head on and learn and grow and evolve. The longer you put the this off, longer you continue to suffer.
Bold assertions need strong evidence. Do you have any for what you wrote above?

Offline DunkleSeele

Re: How do I cease to exist?
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2014, 04:22:13 AM »
I don't like living. I don't like world. I don't like people. I don't like existing.
I do not want to exist anymore. I want to stop existing in any way, shape or form.
I want to NO LONGER EXIST. It's the ONLY thing that I want.
However some people say that it is impossible. And it kinda pisses me off.
I want to die but I fear that death is not the end. There might be some kind of set up like I might wake up in some another place where dying is in fact impossible. I don't like that.

So what is the likelihood that when I die I will no longer exist? There are many stupid people who say different versions of afterlife all of which I hate. I don't want any afterlife AT ALL.

Also I am not misanthrope or anything. If you like existing that's good for you. But I don't. I want this to end.

Also I have concern that different ways of dying give different chances of not existing. Which is kind of stupid but I seem to be concerned about it as well.

Anyway I want to stop existing. How do I reach that? All I have to do is die?
I see a slight contradiction between the two bolded parts. :wink2:

As for your conundrum: this is an atheist forum, therefore most people here by definition do not believe in an afterlife, although we of course cannot exclude it categorically.

As someone already said, one day you'll find out anyway whether there's an afterlife or not. In the meanwhile, why don't you try to solve the issues which brought you to despise life?

Offline johnson (OP)

Re: How do I cease to exist?
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2014, 05:18:51 AM »
You should go to a doctor and ask him to consult with you about major (clinical) depression.  It's quite common and with treatment you may find you enjoy life after all.
Been there. They don't fix what has to be fixed.
« Last Edit: May 05, 2014, 05:23:33 AM by johnson »

Re: How do I cease to exist?
« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2014, 05:26:13 AM »
How old are you?
Quote from: \"the_antithesis\"
Faith says, "I believe this and I don\'t care what you say, I cannot possibly be wrong." Faith is an act of pride.

Quote from: \"AllPurposeAtheist\"
The moral high ground was dug up and made into a walmart apparently today.

Tornadoes caused: 2, maybe 3.

Offline johnson (OP)

Re: How do I cease to exist?
« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2014, 05:27:17 AM »

Re: How do I cease to exist?
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2014, 05:50:49 AM »
Why?

Because it obviously matters.
If you are 14 and think the stuff you think that's something completely different than a 80 year old person thinking the stuff you think.

You know why?

People change during the course of their lives.
Quote from: \"the_antithesis\"
Faith says, "I believe this and I don\'t care what you say, I cannot possibly be wrong." Faith is an act of pride.

Quote from: \"AllPurposeAtheist\"
The moral high ground was dug up and made into a walmart apparently today.

Tornadoes caused: 2, maybe 3.

Re: How do I cease to exist?
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2014, 06:22:53 AM »
There is no such thing as death. You are immortal. Existence is the one thing you can't run away from, your only option is to face existence head on and learn and grow and evolve. The longer you put the this off, longer you continue to suffer.

Also, superpowers shoot out your eyeballs, and you have a really cool costume. Your archnemesis is evil and disfigured but in a really cool way. Your only weakness is that you are entirely fictitious.

Offline johnson (OP)

Re: How do I cease to exist?
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2014, 06:50:15 AM »
Because it obviously matters.
If you are 14 and think the stuff you think that's something completely different than a 80 year old person thinking the stuff you think.

You know why?

People change during the course of their lives.
I'm pretty old. But even if I was young I don't think it makes any difference. In fact it's even worse if you're young.

Re: How do I cease to exist?
« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2014, 06:52:54 AM »
Been there. They don't fix what has to be fixed.
Then find another. And another and another if that's what it takes.
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false and by the rulers as useful

Re: How do I cease to exist?
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2014, 06:59:01 AM »
I'm pretty old. But even if I was young I don't think it makes any difference. In fact it's even worse if you're young.

You are getting better then. Try to work on and with that.
Also: seek help doing so.
Quote from: \"the_antithesis\"
Faith says, "I believe this and I don\'t care what you say, I cannot possibly be wrong." Faith is an act of pride.

Quote from: \"AllPurposeAtheist\"
The moral high ground was dug up and made into a walmart apparently today.

Tornadoes caused: 2, maybe 3.

Offline johnson (OP)

Re: How do I cease to exist?
« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2014, 08:19:38 AM »
Then find another. And another and another if that's what it takes.
You sound very stupid now.

You are getting better then.
How so?

Re: How do I cease to exist?
« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2014, 10:31:28 AM »
You click that  button labeled "Logout" on the top of this page.

Re: How do I cease to exist?
« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2014, 11:00:26 AM »
I am an elderly person. I would, under various circumstances, seek to end my own life. But I would never advocate suicide because your life is your business, not mine. If I committed suicide I would do so as a rational decision and would do it in a way that would be relatively painless and certain, eliminating any possibility of failure.

In my case, I would go to a place that I know where there is a high cliff. I would sit in a certain spot and take drugs that would make me drowsy. When I became too drowsy to sit up I would topple and fall a very long way to a certain (drowning) death. My suicide note would be mailed that same day, a copy to all my children, with reasons explaining my decision, and what to do with my belongings.

My body would be in a large river that flows eventually to the ocean, so that I would be giving myself back to the mother of all life on our planet.

Or else I would make a stencil that spelled "fuck you" and tape it to the back of my head and blow my brains out with a 12 gauge. Spell "fuck you" with blood and brains all over my walls.

You know, be creative.  :biggrin:

Re: How do I cease to exist?
« Reply #28 on: May 05, 2014, 11:04:32 AM »
How so?

You sound very stupid now.
You just told me you used to feel even worse.
Quote from: \"the_antithesis\"
Faith says, "I believe this and I don\'t care what you say, I cannot possibly be wrong." Faith is an act of pride.

Quote from: \"AllPurposeAtheist\"
The moral high ground was dug up and made into a walmart apparently today.

Tornadoes caused: 2, maybe 3.

Re: How do I cease to exist?
« Reply #29 on: May 05, 2014, 11:10:02 AM »
You click that  button labeled "Logout" on the top of this page.

Cool. I'm going to tape a logout button to my chest for a conversation starter.