The fact that there cannot be said to be any mind-independent material is the proof that your material body cannot produce mind. That's the scientific proof at least.
It is not a fact that there cannot be said to be any mind-independant material. That is your conjecture and nothing more. It has not been scientifically proven and I would appreciate if you stopped lying about that. It doesn't become scientifically proven just because you keep repeating the same lie over and over.
The philosophical proof is that you cannot doubt that your mind exists but you can absolutely doubt that external objective material exists. Therefore, you know that mind exists, but you do not know that objective material exists. To assert that objective material definitely does exist would be an assertion which requires proof.
We've already discussed this:
When referring to "I think therefore I am" you said " From there my only real next logical move is solipsism" and now you admit that you were wrong and that there are other logical assumptions. (In fact more logical than solipsism)
Materialism is in fact far far more logical than immaterialism. Why?
La Dolce Vita already pointed this out to you as follows:
"You do admit it "appears that way". That is all that count. If it appears a certain way then that's the most logical position to have. You need good reasons to deny something that clearly appears a certain way, and you do not."
Let me repeat what I've proven and that you continue to deny in vain... You have the burden of proof. Just accept it and move on.
So once again, you have the burden of proof when claiming something is an illusion.
If you are going to hold to the claim that we exist in an objective material universe realize that you are making a positive claim that requires proof. Provide proof of your positive claim please.
If you are unable to pass your hand through what I claim is a solid material object... that is proof of its MATERIAL solidity. The proof of materialism is literally all around you.
If you claim that the solid material object is in fact "just an illusion"... YOU NOW HAVE THE BURDEN OF PROOF FOR YOUR
CLAIM OF ILLUSION.
I have already offered plenty of evidence that suggests we should doubt that your claim is true, yet you refuse do offer any evidence to support your claim about reality. You simply assert it as absolute undoubtable unquestionable Truth. (much like a religious person)
You have not offered any proof at all. You have only offered bold conjecture. Nothing more. I have offered proof. The experiment of passing your hand through a solid material object.
This is where your hypocrisy kicks in. You will now assert that this is not evidence because the illusion (which you just assume) is so compelling that we can't trust these "physical things" and yet, you offer up evidence from these same material things (like the apparatus used to test quantum) as proof that there are no physical things. It's hypocrisy whether you admit it or not.
What you don't seem to understand is that I am not saying that "nothing is real" I am just saying that the better explanation for our observations is a virtual reality produced by information processing. This conclusion can be arrived at without the assumption of Materialism. Science only requires information and an accepted research method with which to ask and answer questions about the information in question. Assuming Realism and Materialism are not a requirement of science.
Science is not philosophy. Science is a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of
testable explanations and predictions about the universe. The testing always involves material reality. That you really on interpretations of the results of these tests when it suits you and reject them out of hand when it doesn't is hypocrisy.